Guest guest Posted November 14, 1996 Report Share Posted November 14, 1996 Regarding Sri Mani"s Query : In Kulasekhara's time , there was no KeraLa desam. It was known earlier as Parasurama Kshetram, since the land was recovered from the sea by Parasuramaa. Hence there was no sharp division such as MalayALa desam and Tamizh nAdu as we know today. There were Chozha , Pandya and Sera NAdus . Pandya NAdu overlapped with Chera NAdu . TamiL was spoken there along with Sanskrit by the Brahmins and KshatriyAs. The women and children spoke Prakrutham in those households . I have covered the country of Kulasekhara AzhwAr in my translation of Mukunda maalai few years ago. AzhwAr was a chieftain of Kolli Naadu and the kingdom extended to the border of Mathurai ( Koodal ) and Srirangam ( Kozhi ). He was not a special devotee of Sri Anantha Padmanabha swamy of Thiruvananthapuram like the other kings of Kerala , who came later. Kulasekhara's unique attachment of Sri Ranganatha(Periya PerumAL )is well documented. Few decades after Kulasekhara's shaking his mortal coils , Seran Senguttavan , a king from the same same chera Desam a great Siva BhakthA ,wrote brilliant Tamil poetry saluting Lord Nataraja . He went on a white elephant to Kailasam according to the legend. Sundara Murthy Nayanaar followed him on a white horse according to the same legend.I am referring to this to point out that Tamil was widely spoken in Chera Naadu.From Kanyakumari to Thiruvenkatam . Tamil was widely spoken in ancient times innthese lands .Thirupathi was considered the northern border of Tamil Desam .It may sound controversial . But, to me MalayALam is a highly sanskritized TamiL . Many Tamilians were settled later in regions like Palkaad , which is not too far from Coimbatore. People from Shenkotta were transplanted in Kannada Desam and formed the group of Sankethis . There were so many " Brownian movements" inside the larger Tamil Desam. I am sure there are other historical records, if we want to dig deeper.Just to get the discussions going , I wish to recall these points . V.Sadagopan ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Mani Varadarajan, INTERNET:mani TO: OM, INTERNET:BHAKTI DATE: 11/13/96 11:23 PM RE: kulaSEkhara aazhvaar Sender: bhakti-errors Received: from lists1.best.com (lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id XAA26911; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:18:05 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id MAA13353 for bhakti-errors; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:04:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611132004.MAA13353 Mani Varadarajan <mani kulaSEkhara aazhvaar Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:00:50 -0800 BestServHost: lists.best.com Sender: bhakti-errors Errors-bhakti-errors bhakti Dear Divya Prabandha rasikas, Is there any internal evidence in the perumaaL tirumozhi for kulaSEkhara mahaaraaja being "cEralar kOn" (king of kerala) as said in the taniyan? In the signature paasurams, he calls himself kUdalar kOn (king of kUdal, near madurai, right?), kozhikkOn (king of woraiyur, near Srirangam), but never says anything about cEra dESam. He also does not call himself perumaaL, which is the family name of the kerala dynasty. Was kulaSEkharan really a Malayali? ;-) Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 1996 Report Share Posted November 18, 1996 >From the late Sangam age, we have a song of the poet Kapilar, where he says that Kari, the chieftain of Mullur, defeated Ori and handed over Ori's fort on Kollimalai to the Chera king. This is the same Kolli that Kulasekhara Azhwar refers to. Besides, Azhwar also mentions Kongu as one of his territories. Kongunadu is modern day Coimbatore, Salem and Erode, which were under the rule of the Kerala kings, till Independence. These areas were included in Tamil Nadu only upon the linguistic reorganization of the states. Thus, Kulasekhara Azhwar was probably of the Chera dynasty, whether or not he ruled any regions in Kerala proper. Vidyasankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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