Disagreement vs. Apachara

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Dear Members om the Group :

 

I agree 100% with the sentiments

expressed by Sri Srinivasan .

 

I can not think of words to thank

Sri Mani for the yeoman service that

he is doing to keep us all united thru this

special E-mail list .

 

His sincerity to learn about our Sampradhayam

and to serve the BhagavathAs does not need too much

elaboration.

 

Honest differences of opinion on subjects

going back to many centuries can not and should not

be considered as "Apachaarams " by any standards.

Let us get on with the enjoyment of the contributions of

the many talented and devout people of this group

united by their devotion to do common service

to the Divya dampathis and to learn about their

Vaibhavams and the illustrious contributions of

our AzhwArs and AchaaryAs .

 

This is an appeal and not a judgemental statement .

 

V.Sadagopan

 

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It pains me to see Sri. Mani being accused of bhaagavata apachaara. I do not

know how many of us are fully familiar with all the writings (and other

works) of all the great Acharyas so that nothing we have to say will not

contradict some part of the body of such great works. If respectful

disagreement is to be construed as bhaagavata apacahara, then there is not

much room for philosophical or theological discussions in this group.

 

It is acknowledged by many scholars that right from the time of Sri Bhagavad

Ramanuja, there have been disagreements among subsequent acharyas on various

philosophical matters. Does this mean we should accuse those acharyas with

whom our acharyas may disagree of bhaagavata apachara? I do not think so. I

think it is possible to try to refute an argument with a counter argument

without accusing the proponent of apachara. I hope I am not just speaking for

myself only when I say that Sri. Mani's kainkarya in organizing, maintaining

and contributing to this group is held in very high regard.

 

Dasan Srinivasan.

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At 12:13 PM 1/16/97 -0800, S. Vidyasankar wrote:

>

>>

>> To my knowledge Sri Mani's objections to Sri Murali Rangaswami prompted a

>> few mild and quite respectful disagreements. Sri Mani's response included:

>>

>> "Practice your sandhyavandanam, be a vegetarian,

>> do thiruvaaraadhanai; but don't let these be the

>> excuse for committing bhagavata-apacharam."

>>

>> >From this it can be argued that Sri M. Srinivasan's complaint applies more

>> to Sri Mani than to Sri Anbil Ramaswami, the unnamed accused. Further, I

>

>I thought Mani's comment applied more to the Brahmanas of the time of the

>Azhwar, and not to Sri Anbil Ramaswamy per se.

 

Could be, but the words were addressed to those who perform

Sandhyavandhanam, et al., and use that as an excuse to commit bhagavatha

apacharam. They are not just the Brahmin's of aazhvaar's time. However,

the reference to Sri Anbil Ramaswami was strictly in the context of Sri M

Srinivasan's complaint about bhagavatha apacharam. My point was that in

this instance, the spectre of bhagavatha apacharam was brought forth first

by Sri Mani, not Sri Anbil Ramaswami. Again, I hate to be critical of Sri

Mani. I hope I don't have to clarify my opinion on this matter any further.

 

You have raised many important questions regarding the practice of

Varnashrama Dharma. I know very little about these matters and therefore I

am afraid I can't answer any of them. Personally speaking, I will follow

the lead of my Acharya. If my acharya says I will have to learn the Vedas

from a Chandala I will have absolutely no problem with that. If he says I

should not, I won't.

 

regards, Dileepan