Guest guest Posted January 13, 1997 Report Share Posted January 13, 1997 Dear Members of the Mailing Group: In continuation of the discussion (not polemics) on Caste etc., I would like to throw out some random thoughts. The idea being not to state canonical principles but merely continue the evolutionary process. My personal idea of caste - the way it is now in India is as follows; Caste: A group of people tied together by social, cultural and religious ideas similar primarily among themselves and with their OWN appreciation of their relative social position. No one caste is higher than others (as stated by a consensus cutting across many caste groups and believed primarily by the group in question) and all are different from others. I recently met a gentleman on my travels who informed me that he was a Saiva Vellala. He was a strict vegetarian (no eggs) and worried that his father would get furious to find out that he had eaten eggs for a short while. As his family had houses to rent in Madras, their rule of thumb was - only to saiva vellalas or perhaps to brahmins as they could ALSO keep up with the vegetarian cooking requirement. In fact, brahmins came No.2 in their mindset. This is an example and by no means the only one where I have met groups that consider themselves to be superior with little in common with the commonly held caste system hierarchy. One would expect (given the supposed hierarchy of the caste system) that in intercaste marriages, the lower group may not feel as antagonistic towards the higher group in the marriage (i mean the families) as the higher group would towards the lower group (dilution of standards etc.). However, these days, the primary boycotts seem to cut across the higher/lower group distinctions. It is "why did you mess up OUR group" that comes across most strongly. Even in the so called highest caste, I have seen many many examples which confound the simply held views on caste. I have seen Kashmiri brahmins proclaim their purity and superiority. However, my grandparents would consider them to be quite low in the overall totem pole due to their nonvegetarian habits. Then of course there is that great south indian divide - tenkalai, vadakalai, mandyam, hebbar, madras etc. that occurs in iyengars alone, let alone the vadama, vathima, brihatcharanam groupings in iyers. Coming to the so called "casteless" societies like the UK and the US, I have seen caste proclaimed a lot stronger than I have seen in India. For example, the caste system here is a set of several groupings. An easy one is economic. For example, do you expect that the wealthy new england families would like it if their children married into middle class families ? No Way. How about between Whites and Hispanics and Blacks etc. ? And of course in Good Ole England, you have the royals, the uppah class, the lower class that speak cockney etc. Intermarriage among these is more common (it is a matter of percentages) but subject to the same societal frowns that intercaste marriages are subject to in india (although that is now changing). The difference between the caste system here and the one in india is simply that one is allowed to climb up the economic caste ladder (of course the ones based on birth, family etc. are closed just like the system in india). So, stability for society seems to come from groupings - what man rebels against is an arbitrary fixed path set at birth without regards to the potentials lying unlocked in that child. Mukund Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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