Guest guest Posted March 25, 1997 Report Share Posted March 25, 1997 Dear bAgawathALs, There are several incidents in our ahchArya guru pArampariyam that had taken place to show the truth that azwar aruLichcheyaL is considered as the most prmoinent and also superior literature of all. This relate to the recent quote by Sri varadhan from PBA and subsequent questions by Sri PD on the understanding and the validity of the same in certain manner. This post is not to hurt anyone's feelings. Sri varadhan and Sri PD please forgive me if these continued posts are in anyway hurting your feelings. This post is simply meant to present a beautiful incidence from our poorvacharyaaLs that will show us that azwaar aruLich cheyaL was indeed considered as the most prominent and important and holy literature of all in their mind. Sri koorath azwar's son Sri Rangaraja battar was serving periya perumal and our sri sampradayam as a pravarththar. That time a srivaishnava came to Srirangam from north and battar met him at thiruk kauveri. When asked about the news from north the visting sriviahsnava said that there is "vedathi" near thiru narayan puram and is teaching all the advaithic philosphy to all masses as simiular to your services for sri vishitaadvaidam. Later when the sriviashnava went to north he told the vedanthi that he met with Sri battar at srirangam. He also told him that Sri battar is more proficient than vedanthi. when asked by vedanthi he replied sri battar knows tharkkam, vyAkaranam and meemamsai and all other shaastraas. some time later the srivishnava returned to srirangam and told sri battar about his conversatrion with vedanthi. battar asked him "what did youtell him as to what shaastras i knew". srivaishnava repeated. Sri battar replied " swami, you didnot mention to vedanthi of those most important subsatnace i have learnt and instead you have told him about the other shaaatraas. Next time when you meet him please tell him that i have unederstood thiru nedunthaandakam". Vedanthi didnot know this when he was told. Later battar went to this place and debated the vedanthi for 9 days as per periya perumal's advice. On the 10 th day periya perumal appeared in his dream and said i wanted him to know your expertise in all the other shaastras so far. tomorrow you may use thiru nedinthaandakam and alawandaar's srisukthi and will win him. Thus the vedanthi accepted defeat with the thirunedunthaandakam arulich cheyal and its vyaakyaanma itself and pleaded to sri battar to accept him as a shishyaal and became a sriviashnavaL under him. The moral of this acahraya vaibavam is such that not only our poorvachaRyaaLs but also periya perumal of srirangam had in THEIR mind that azwar aruLichceyal is the most important shastram of all. Sri Rangaraja battar thiruvadikaLE charaNam thiru nedunthAndakam thantha parakAlaN thriuvadikaLE charaNam Sri RanganAyika samEtha Sri Rangantha perumAL pAdukE charaNam Sampath Rengarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 1997 Report Share Posted March 26, 1997 Dear Sri.Rengarajan, Your last post recounts a very interesting tale and you conclude with its moral as follows: The moral of this acahraya >vaibavam is >such that not only our poorvachaRyaaLs but also periya perumal of >srirangam >had in THEIR mind that azwar aruLichceyal is the most important shastram >of all. >Sampath Rengarajan Now, I find this sort of conclusion hard to endorse. The way you have expressed it, it seems as though there is a competitive cleavage between Vedic 'sruti' as "pramANam" and "azwar aruLichceyal" !! I was taught the "taniyan" to "kanninUn-siru-thAmbu ....": "vErOnrUm nAn ariyEn vEdam tamizh seyda mAran sadagOpan vangUrugoorErengal vAzhvAm enrEthUm madhurakavIyAr emmai AzhwAr avarE aran" Now the above says that "mAran" served the 'veda-sAstrA-s' in Tamil for our benefit !! It does not mean that "sruti-s" thereby became any inferior to "azwar aruLichceyal" in the process !! I find it fantastic that you use the superlative statement: "azwar aruLichceyal is the most important shastram >of all." One must certainly equate "azwar aruLichceyal" with "vEda-sAstra"; but how can one grant a superior status to the former on the basis of mere dizzy love for Tamil as a language that Sri.Rengarajan is obviously suffering from !! Mark the verse in "kanninUn-siru-thAmbu" which clearly uses the phrase "vEdam tamizh seyda" (aruLichceyal) !! I was taught that the verse "vErOnrUm nAn ariyEn", in ESSENCE, echoes the sentiments of souls otherwise unable to know or experience the truths of "vEdic-sAstrA-s" but who are nonetheless enabled, through the Grace and Kindness of the great "AzwArmAran-sadagOpan's aruLichceyal", to be blessed with the same "anUbhAvam" (much as "madhura-kaviyAr" was)!! This I thought was the essence of the above verse !! Now the way you categorically state it all, Sri.Rengarajan --- "azwar aruLichceyal is the most important shastra of all." --- it seems like we poor souls have got it all completely wrong ! Have I understood you properly ? sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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