Guest guest Posted December 11, 1997 Report Share Posted December 11, 1997 Dear bAgwathALs, Sri ANDAL thiruvadikaLE saraNam We are planning to present the understanding for the thaniyans and *some* of the major aspects of thirup pAvai (of the 30 verses), in the coming days. This will be a team effort posted by both Sri Varadhan and adiyEn. Please tune in to look for the postings. We request learned bAgwathALs to step in and add to it whenever they feel necessary. We donot know if we can simply complete this task within this month of mArgazhi. This is perumAL and godhA pirAtti's work and we simply pray to them and hope that they will bless us with atleast somewhat basic understanding of these verses and provide meaningful discussions. An incident from achArya vaibavam comes to mind. It is very important to note from the kalAshEbhams of achAryALs that azhwAr's pAsurams are not easy to do vyAkyAnams without anubavam. Sri PradivAdhi Bayankaram SwamigaL used to do vyAkyAnam for 3 hours non stop for one Pasuram of thiruppAvai. When Sri Ramanujar was approached by the sishyALs to do vyAkyAnam for thiru vaay mozhi, it is believed that he said, " I may not want to do it by myself. (Later on the first vyAkyAnam was delivered by his direct disciple thirukurukoor piLLAn). Because there is a potential scope that these nools are to be learnt by everyone by their own anubavam and that it is very apt that there should be so many vyAkyAnams that must come out for these from each generation of achAryALs. The understanding of this must continue to grow. (meaning each time a soul reads it and feels it (anubavam) they may come out with an unique bagwath anubavam and such will become vyAkyAnam). For brahma sudhram there is a definite vyAkyAnam and hence my bAshyam is delivered for that. If I write a vyAkyAnam like that for the thirumozhis, the future generation of SrivaishnvaLs may fix their mind in it and say that this is the only valid vyAkyAnam. instead, I desire that each one have their own anubavam." In fact the second of the five last (commandments) rules of Sri Ramanujar was understood by some schools like these. ie., azwar aruLich cheyalai pravarpiththaL. When bagwath Sri Ramanujar would say like that, we donot even think that 4000 divya prabhandam is just a one layer seyyuL with literal meanings from the words as they merely appear. We donot even dare presenting one simple meaning and cocluding it as the only meaning or of that sort. i.e., We recognize the importance attached to it by Sri Ramanujar, when handling this tamil vedam. We recognize the existance of so many (atleast 3 layers of) meanings and would attempt to see these verses from the kalAkshEbams we have heard from different schools. We will simply attempt to present an infant ramblings of our understanding of this sAgaram known as 4000 divya prabhandham. We would attempt to present them with these in our minds such that this ghOsti can enjoy it. It is believed that Thirup pAvai is the only prabhandam of 4000 divya prabhandham that is written in most of the major indian languages and all Srivaishnavas around the globe do anusanthAnam of these 30 verses irrespective of their language. The pAsurams are written in many languages so that one need not even know tamil and yet they can simply read it in their language and still spell the words of the pAsuram in Tamil. ie., as similar to chanting a mantra. All over the world (6 crores) (approximately 60 million) of tamil speaking people living in 63 countries as well do anusanthAnam of these verses during this month. Thus it is worth a try to attempt to understand this one more time. It is important to discuss the introduction prior to the verses themselves for any kavi or kAvyam. We attempt to present the various vyAkyAnams on the essence of thirup pAvai as to what it contains and some related aspects of our achArya vaibavam prior to discussing the verses from thirup pAvai. This is like an executive summary (second part will be posted by Sri Varadhan) but these are little longer than a professional one. Please forgive us of any apachArams that may have occurred while attempting to discuss these. We intend to post only the details of our understanding from PV pillai and Sru Puththur swamigaL's father's vyAkyAnam and other kAlakshEbhams. We donot intend to get into any arguments and would merely present the details. So please forgive us if we donot answer your questions in the open net. Sri ANDAL thiruvadikaLE saraNam Sri Boomi dEvi thAyAr samEtha Sri Oppiliappan thiruvadikaLE saraNam Sampath Rengarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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