Guest guest Posted January 24, 1998 Report Share Posted January 24, 1998 Sri Keshava das asked: >>>By the way what exactly is the way of thinking towards women. In the opinion of the list members (with appropriate shastra pramanas) are women a caste or do women have caste. ie Women brahmins, etc. And if so (barring 3 days a month) why should there be restrictions on them?<<< As per my limited understanding of this subject, Women have caste just as men. As we know, a Sudra man could marry only a Sudra woman, a Vysya man could marry a Vaishya or a sudra woman, a Kshatriya man could marry a Kshatriya, or a Vaishya or a Sudra woman. Needless to say that a Brahmin man could marry a woman belonging to any of the four castes. Thus, it is clear that the caste afflictions applies to both sexes. However, the religious prescriptions and expectations of Brahmin men and women are different and fits closely with the prakrithi dharmam of the two sexes. For performance of Most Vedic rituals, a Grihastha has to be accompanied by his wife. It is the woman who kindles the Agni in the homa kundam. The benefits of religious performances, man taes the lead role, but his wife is assured of half of the benefits. Without being accompanied by a wife, man gets Zero benefit. These are the reasons given why a woman does not take part exactly as a man in Veda adhyayanam and rituals. 1. The Anushtanams are to be performed withou a break. This is not possible for a cycling woman. The Agni ha sto be lept alive without a break- means Agnikaryam goes uninterrupted (every day). There are some rare circumstances in a man's life as well where he may be prohibitted at certain times (death of relatives, birth of relatives, personal sickness etc.) however, these are less common than the monthly interruptions for a woman 2. Rituals be performed in the top less attire: may not be appropriate for most women to do so. The vakshasthalam (Hridaya sthalam) of the individual be exposed to the Deity without any obstruction, other than air in between. 3. Vedic mantras are supposed to be very poweful and are all faminine by nature. Thus, a woman chanting it may make it too powerful to bear (unless, she is gifted with a rather coarse voice!). 4. Women get the benefits any way (as stated before). For present day, for most of us, none of the above reasons are that valid- so anyone (men or women of any caste or no caste) who likes to learn or do, should be encouraged. This is the ground rules I(we) have established for our Temple. We do have some resistance from older and or newer priests- but for most part we have been able to implement. In my opinion if we don't do this, all the precious kuladhanams we have will become so precious that it will be known to only a handful of individuals and eventually become even more precious (rare). Also, let us not forget what Sri Ramanujar did in Ghoshti Puram. Should I say more? In this context, I remember my childhood days when our elders, rediculed Public Gita Pravachans of Chinmayananda in Lal Baug glass house and such placed telling that it is apacharam to Lords Words. Most of these were not aware of Prabhupada and thus he was saved from their wrath. Daasan Tatachar (K. Sreekrishna) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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