Guest guest Posted June 10, 1998 Report Share Posted June 10, 1998 SrImate GOPALA DESIKA MAHADESIKAYA NAMA: Dear Bhagavottamas: Sri Balaraman wrote: > "Balaraman M Sriram" <srirambm >More questions... >Mon, 08 Jun 1998 08:49:57 PDT >Dear Vaishnavas, >When the mind is filled with fear, the throat filled with bile, the limbs >shivering, how will one be able to think of his holy name ? To answer partly to Sri Balaraman's question, is this what Periazhwar thinking about when he says in his naan_kaampaththu? thuppudaiyaarai_adaivadhellaam sOrvidaththuththuNaiyaavarenRE oppilEnaakilumn^innadaindhEn aanaikkun^ee_aruLseydhamaiyaal eyppu_ennaivandhun^aliyumpOdhu angu_Edhumn^aanunnain^inaikkamaattEn appOdhaikku_ippOdhEsollivaiththEn arangaththaravaNaippaLLiyaanE! (rough translation of the last 4 lines of verse in bold: Sri RanganAtha, the one who is lying on Adisesha! When I am in the last stage of my journey unable to do anything, I may not think about you. I am telling you now itself for that time.) Sri Kulasekhara AzhwAr also expresses similar sentiment in his Mukunda Mala. Sarvam Sri Krishnarpanamasthu adiYen dAsan >Lakshmanan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1998 Report Share Posted June 10, 1998 "SHRI BHOOMI NEELA SAMETHA SRI LAKSHMI NRISIMHA PARABRAMANEYA NAMAHA" Pranamas to all sri vaishnavas This message has two replies.... regarding the message posed by Mr MK Krishnaswamy 1)It is just we have to get the list of people who wish to recieve sanskrit lessons directly.The list has to be maintained by few srivaishnavas and each one will have some of the members of the list who would recieve the lessons.So it would be better that if few Sri vaishnavas can voulenteer and we can group the mail addresses and allot each Srivaishanava a particular group. The lessons will be sent to these Srivaishnavas and they would inturn forward them to the members in the list that they maintain. it makes the job all the more easier if we follow this . It would take some time for us to compose the lessons in the font software that was mentioned as we have to download ,feed etc...and we should also see to that all the members have the font software mentioned. We also wish to add english and tamil fonts in that software so that we can provide a tamil/english explanation for sanskrit irequest ure valuble suggestions on this. 2) The questions posed by Mr Balaram M Sriram a)"ANTHIMASAMARANA" is what it is called as in our "SHASTRAS".It is explicitly stated in few places that "ANTHIMASMARANA" is what that decides about the soul's position after it departs(the person dies) from the body. But I have been given to understand and remember having read that for "PRAPANNASAnthimasmarana" is not necessary and it is also very difficult. I shall get the "Pramanas" for it as early as possible. I presume Mr balaram m sriram knows the meaning of "anthimassmarana" and "prapanna" b) the states can be divided into two categories 1) "ATHMA ANUBHAVA" which is called as "KAIVALYA" here the "jeevathma" enjoys(experiences) itself and it is not the ultimate "moksha".It is a sort of moksha in the sense that the soul does not get back to the "prakruthi mandala" that is in to the emperical world. "PARAMAPADHA" where the "JEEVATHMAS" as said in "VISHNU SUKTHATADH VISHNO PARAMAM PADHAM SADAHA PASYANTHI SOORAYAHA DUVIVA CHAKSHURARATHAM"(please forgive me if there had been any mistakes in translitration) is always next to the "PARAMATHMA" enjoys "PARAMATHMA" by serving him.He attains everything equivalent to "paramathma" in appearence (form) by having a "APRAKRUTHA SARIRAM"(transedental body "SUDHA SATVA" body) etc. But "paramathma" retains "SRIYAPATHITHVAM,SRISHTI,STHITHI,SAMHARAM" with him and so the "jeevathma" is still different from "PARAMATHMA". again this II category we have "salokyam"-residing somewhere in the transcedental world of paramathma,"sarupyam"-To have the simillar form as the "paramathma"(with conch,disc etc),"samipyam"-Always being next to "paramathma" and "sayujyam" enjoying eternal bliss with "paramathma". of all the above "sayujyam" is the ultimate "moksha" as the soul does "kainkarya" and enjoys eternal bliss. It is also to be noted that there is a dispute that goes still on wheteher "paramathma" includes "SHRI" or it just refers to "NARAYANA".this concept of "SHRI" is the main dispute between the "vadagalai"(northern school) and the "thengalai"(southern school) APART FROM MANY OTHERS. C) the "sthala purana"will tell the significannce of "swarga vaasal". here "swarga" i feel has to be taken as the "swarga" in the "prakrthi mandala" (ie outside the releams of transcedental universe) so the soul afer enjoying all it was allowed to comes back takes another birth.The "swarga" that is supposedly to be attained after the soul departs is not "moksha" the soul is still in the cycle of "karmas". it is not "shri vaikuntha"/"paramapadham" (which are referred to "swargas" at few places in "shruthis") and the act of entrance bestows the person the "indra loga"/"swarga" experince. This is my humble opinion. regs venkataraghavadhasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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