Guest guest Posted July 16, 1998 Report Share Posted July 16, 1998 Dear friends, Here's the answer to the 2nd question raised by a member on the discussions held for 6 weeks on the theme of "bandhu-s" and "jantu-s" and as it appears in Swami Desikan's "kAmAsikAshtakam. The question was : "What is exactly is meant by the phrase "transcending the limitations of Time and Space" in the verse from the Gita you translate as: (Ch.6.44): purvAbyAsEna tEnaiva hiyathE hyavashO-api sa-ha I jijnyA-surapi yOgasya shabda-brahmAti-varta thE II (By the power of his earlier efforts, he is carried forward relentlessly, and even against his own will, until he reaches a state where he transcends "sabda-brahmhan" ( "prakriti" or Matter with all its concomitant limitations of Time and Space) ? Answer: The idea of "transcending limitations of Time and Space which "prakriti" imposes on individual consciousness" ("jantu") is a trifle more difficult to explain than to perhaps even experience it oneself!! I haven't come across a better explanation for it than those offered by Advaitins who I personally believe are generally possessed of an uncanny and natural knack for shedding light on the most abstruse of matters metaphysical. The great "AdvaitAcharya", Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati, the Saint of Kanchi, explained the "upanishadic" experience of "transcending Time and Space" in the following manner: Pick up a newspaper and carefully watch your own reactions as you browse through the columns. You may first chance to read some news item about some war or conflict in Bosnia between Serbs and Croats or between Tutsi and Hutus in Rwanda. If a conflict appears between say, India and Pakistan (over Kashmir), ie. nearer home, you may forget the Bosnian or Rwandan crisis and turn your attention immediately to the news report on the tiff between India and Pakistan. Suppose there is another report about a conflict even nearer home … say, between Muslims and Hindus in Coimbatore what happens?You forget quickly about Bosnia, Kashmir and turn your attention immediately to Coimbatore!! Suppose someone comes up to you as your are at your newspaper and tells you that a bloody brawl is taking place next street between your neighbour Sriman XYZ and the other one, Srimathi ABC, over respective rights to parking space in their common garage…. Well, what happens? You may want to drop the newspaper, the Bosnian crisis, the Kashmir imbroglio, the Coimbatore carnage and may well rush next street to catch a ring-side view of the final set in the slanging match beween Sri.XYZ and Srimathi. ABC, isn't it?! Now suppose while you are enjoying the tie-breaker duel between Sri. XYZ and Srimathi.ABC your son comes running up to you and tells you war has broken out in your own home between your wife and your mother …. What will you do ? You will drop everything ---- newspaper,Bosnia, Kashmir, Coimbatore, your neighbours XYZ & Co. --- get agitated and rush home at once to quell an imminet riot, won't you ? Now, in an international perpective, the Bosnian, Rwandan or Kashmir problem is surely indeed of very great importance. But you quickly pass from such great issues to other disputes of lesser importance and consequence. Your interest in each however is in inverse proportion to the real importance of the issue, isn't it? Why? The reason is because Rwanda is FAR AWAY IN SPACE !! Our individual consciousness is more concerned about what happens in our own backyards than what is occurring in the distance! When conflict, trouble, dispute, unhappiness, pain are FAR AWAY IN SPACE we tend to look on them with cool, almost studied disinterest….as when reading about distant bloodshed in Rwanda in a newspaper column! When the same turmoil happens nearer home we become instantly and greatly distressed and agitated! Our state of consciousness or mind-state is thus greatly limited by SPACE which is a cardinal dimension of this world, this "prakriti"!! Now look at the other dimension TIME. Assume that a near and dear one --- a "bandhu" --- like a father or sister passes away. One is extremely distressed at the bereavement. Now after 10 or 15 years the same distress is no longer felt by us with the same intensity of pain, isn't it? If we think deeply about it – why we are not now affected by our father's death as we were 10 years ago-- we will surely realize that we are less and less affected by past events as those of the recent past or those of the present. It is therefore easier to remain detached about a past event than about one that is unfurling now in time right before our eyes! Why ? It is because of TIME! This then is the truth of the "upanishads" and the above mentioned verse of the Gita : It is possible for us to attain quietude/tranquility of consciousness if we learn to look upon the ceaseless conflict near-at-hand within ourselves (and the pain it ceaselessly causes us every moment of the present time) with the same studied detachment we reserve for conflicts and pain of events in the remote DISTANCE of SPACE and TIME! This is the meaning of the term "trancending limitations of Time and Space imposed by "prakriti". When we trancend it we are said to achieve "sabda-brahman" the state where we can also experience "bonding" with the "akhilasya-bandhu" -- the Lord KamasikA-hari! To quote the "advaitAchAryA " : Upanishadic longing is the burning desire to be free from time and space. It would be in proportion to the extent to which we burn within in our endeavour to be free from the spatio-temporal limitations of this worldly existence….". I hope I have answered my good friend's question adequetely. adiyEn, sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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