Guest guest Posted July 13, 1998 Report Share Posted July 13, 1998 Dear friends, Two interesting questions on "bandhus & jantus" were posed by some members to me privately. I have their permission to discuss it on the "bhakti-list". 1) Why can't a jantu get enlightened by revelations by divine grace and get the knowledge of his/her/it being a "cosmic orphan" and there are instances where great atmas are born-realised (eg. Sri Sukha Brahmam, the holy son of Sage Vyasa, hastAmalakar, disciple of Srimad Sankaracharya). Ofcourse Swami Desikan and other Acharyas also didn't preach this wisdom after getting forsaken by their bandhus. Why should the jantu be forsaken by his bandhus before this wisdom shines in him/her/it ? 2) What is exactly is meant by the phrase "transcending the limitations of Time and Space" in the verse from the Gita you translate as: (Ch.6.44): purvAbyAsEna tEnaiva hiyathE hyavashO-api sa-ha I jijnyA-surapi yOgasya shabda-brahmAti-varta thE II (By the power of his earlier efforts, he is carried forward relentlessly, and even against his own will, until he reaches a state where he transcends "sabda-brahmhan" ( "prakriti" or Matter with all its concomitant limitations of Time and Space) Answer to Question 1: The forsaking of "bandhu-s" is not to be taken literally although in the case of the "pUrAnic" episodes involving Gajendra, Vibeeshana or Draupadi there was clearly a physical "un-binding" or unwinding of "bandham" between kin. In the lives of great ones like the Buddha, Sankara and RamanujachArya too there was a clear effort on their part to untie themselves from the shackles of worldly kinship and "bandhus".It preceded and hastened their date with "brahmic" destiny, isn't it? I believe there is thus abundant material, evidence, "pramANam" or "purAnic" precedent to suggest that "jantus be (and are indeed) forsaken by bandhus before "brahmic" wisdom or the sense of Universal "bandhu-hood" shines (forth)"! "kArpannyam" --- the sense of "cosmic" desolation or helplessness --- naturally sets in a man when he loses "herd instinct", the identification with kin. Take away "bandhus" and Man, Animal or any "jantu" becomes instantly an "existential cipher". I explained this at length in one of the posts. Disaffiliation from "bandhus" need not be in the literal/physical sense. I concede the point. Draupadi after her ordeal continued to remain, after all, the loyal spouse of the Pandavas. But it is doubtful if she ever thought of them again as her "bandhus" in a living sense! It is highly doubtful too, I think, if she, traumatized as she certainly was, could ever have regarded anyone else but Lord Krishna as the true "bandhu"! But the point I was trying to drive home was simply this: >From the "purANic" episodes, from the way the "AchAryA-s" expound them and from the way they themselves experienced it, we conclude that a "jantu" must "disaffiliate" from "bandhus", literally or otherwise, in order to truly experience the feeling of "kArpannyam" or "akinchinyam". Question 2 is a very tough one to explain although it looks easy enough. I will post after a few days. Meanwhile if any other good member (well-versed in the GitA) would like to handle it, he/she is most welcome. adiyEn, sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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