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Dear Bhagavathas,

en paNivAna namaskAram.

 

Some of you may have glanced at some doubts I had posed

in my earlier few posts. I am sure rest of the bhagavathas

may have shunned those posts as some pidhatRal.

 

I would like to re-post a doubt here in this mail and

request learned members like Sri Sadagopan, Sri Anbil, Sri

Mani, Sri M.K.Krishnaswami, Sri Rengarajan, Sri Sudarsan,

Sri S.Krishnaswamy, Sri Anand K. and others whose erudition I

am not acquainted to, to share their wisdom on these matters.

 

With regard to sacrifices made over yag~na agni:

Is not agni an inert component of this prakriti? How can

it have likes and dislikes?! What actual philosophy lies behind

this presumption that agni likes meat etc.?

 

adiyEn,

chandrasekaran.

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Sri:

Srimate Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha ParaBrahmane Namaha

 

Dear Sri chandrasekar & other devotees ,

namo nArAyaNA. PranAmams .

 

Sri chandrasekhar wrote :

 

Some of you may have glanced at some doubts I had posed

in my earlier few posts. I am sure rest of the bhagavathas

may have shunned those posts as some pidhatRal.

 

I would like to re-post a doubt here in this mail and

request learned members like Sri Sadagopan, Sri Anbil, Sri

Mani, Sri M.K.Krishnaswami, Sri Rengarajan, Sri Sudarsan,

Sri S.Krishnaswamy, Sri Anand K. and others whose erudition I

am not acquainted to, to share their wisdom on these matters.

 

With regard to sacrifices made over yag~na agni:

Is not agni an inert component of this prakriti? How can

it have likes and dislikes?! What actual philosophy lies behind

this presumption that agni likes meat etc.?

 

 

adiyen : The word " agni " at first refers to Sriman nArAyaNA (

erudite members are requested to explain this ) .

It can also refer the jIvAtmA "agnI" who has been given the

post of "agnI" as a demigod . It can also refer to the "fire"

( the body of jIvAtmA agnI ) which is nothing but "matter " .

 

Upanishad says "Wherever Name & Form exists , both jIvAtmA

& paramAtmA resides out there " ( chAndogya Upanishad says

something similar to this ; adiyen forgot the "classic" pramAnams

quoted for this fact . But adiyen has heard them in kAlakshebams .

erudite members are requested to throw some light ) . So, certain

jIvAtmAs resides inside materialistic things like chair , table , pen etc

ie. "chair" is the body of a "jIvAtmA" ; "table" is a body of

another

jIvAtmA etc . But , the dharmabhoota jn~Anam of these type of baddha

jIvAtmAs are extremely shrunk due to their heavy amount of sins

( thats why they got such type of bodies ) .

 

If a rishi curses someone to become stone , it doesn't mean that

the jIvAtmA will transform into a matter . It simply means that the

jIvAtmA

which at present is occupying a human body will get a "stone" as the

body . If a jIvAtmA previously had a superior devatA body & because

of curse gets some body like "snake" , it is possible for the

jIvAtmA to

retain some of the special functionalities like speech .

 

Devotees while taking bath in sacred rivers , pray to the "river" .

This

doesn't mean that they are fools talking to some matter . They know that

there is a jIvAtmA which has the particular "river" as its body . That

jIvAtmA can also take a devatA body apart from the "river" body .

That devatA body will be feminine in nature . River GangA yielded a

son, River GangA is wife of someone etc refers to the jIvAtmA

( having the body of "river gangA" ) which can take devatA body also.

 

There is a jIvAtmA associated with a mountain also . That jIvAtmA may

have the special qualification of taking a devatA body also.

Similarly , one

can keep extending . The purAnAs are not employing any symbolism

while

explaining these things. Rather one needs to know the tattvA behind

it &

appreciate it .

 

Coming back to the question , the yaj~nAs are done for the pleasure

of

Sriman nArAyaNA only . But if one does it for the satisfaction of say

"agnI"

( ie. JIvAtmA agnI ) then , agni devatA rewards accordingly . That agni

devatA

( jIvAtmA) has likes & dislikes .

 

If two persons are simultaneously doing yaj~nAs at two different

places &

they simultaneously call the demigod IndrA , then IndrA appears to

both

the places simultaneously with the devatA body ( If ya~jnA is done

properly,

IndrA will be there . Also , the person performing the yaj~nA needs to

have

the qualification to see the demigod IndrA ) .

 

But jIvATmA being atomic in size , can only be in one place . It

cannot be in

different places simultaneously . But , the jIvAtmA eventhough is in one

place &

say has body of type "A" , it can control other bodies of say type

"B" , "C" etc

through its dharmabhoota jn~Anam . In other words , the jIvAtmA IndrA

is at one

place only . It has a devatA body . The other devatA body is simply

controlled by

the jIvATmA IndrA, through the dharmabhoota jn~Anam itself ( all pleasure

, pain etc

of this devatA body also affects the jIvATmA though it is not

physically inside it).

 

Please refer to the Feb 98 archives ( 0044.html) in reply to "anutvA of

jIvAtmA" , for

further info on these matters .

 

namo nARAyaNA

adiyen

anantha padmanAbha dAsan

krishnArpanam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

adiyEn,

chandrasekaran.