Guest guest Posted August 13, 1998 Report Share Posted August 13, 1998 Dear Ramesh, You have done it ! Why do you ask if there is none to vote for Nrisimha? Tiru Allik Keni Koil is the home for Nrisimha as well as Parthasarath besides Ranganatha, Rama and Varada. Please await my next post and you will find that when one mentions Tiru Allik Keni one votes for Nrisimhan as well - the same Nrisimhan who adorns Ahobilam. While all are welcome to Pomona, it is not necessarily to learn about the glories of Nrisimha. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 1998 Report Share Posted August 13, 1998 Dear Bhagavathas - These days i look forward to opening my email session and reading all these wonderful posts on "My favorite Divya Desam". I thank all the participants for sharing these wonderful insights on the various divya desams (all of which are our only true "kula dhanam"). However i done have a sense of disappointment that i would like to share :-) None of the posts so far have voted for Ahobilam as the most favoured DD. Isn't there a single bhagavatha who can sing the glory of my dear lord Sri Malolan? Isn't there one soul who feels that He should be given the status of "first among equals"?? Is my dear lord bereft of supporters?? adiyEn considers himself "akinshnaha" when it comes to speaking about the glory of Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan, but is unable to keep quite when every else seems to have madeup his/her mind (misguided, in my opininon) that someone else (other than the lord of Singavelkundram) is their isthadevatha. To all such folks i have one questions : Kaliyan while singing the glory of Azhagiya singar (at Tiruvalikani) narrates succintly the avathara rahasyam of Lakshmi Narasimhan and says "Angu Appoyude avan viya thondriya en singapiran perumai"...meaning "that day when his parama bhakta, Prahaladan, was in distress, our Lord came to his rescue in an instant". That same Lord, "Engu eppOyudum" (even now, to this day), wearing His padukas is going from village to village and rescuing countless devotees by having samashrayanam and bharanyasam performed on them under His lotus feet. Show me one other Lord who is doing this ? It is one thing to preach the charama slokam, but something all together different to execute it day-in-and-day-out (for all Tiru-alli-kAni vasis :-)) Of what use is the sweet smile on the tirumukam of tiruvenkatamudayan, if i can enjoy it for only a fraction of a second? (may be a minute...if i can spare 10 bucks :-)) Of what use is even our pEriya perumal, if he refuses to budge from his "bed"? Devadirajan, ofcourse, standing on Attigiri and holding his abhaya-hastam is showering His benign glance on all His devotees. But then it takes just one "dancer" (Arayar) to snatch away even his darling son (Udayavar). Prersonally, i would think twice before taking refuge under such a "vehuli" :-) So friends...maybe now you would like to change your mind (vote)...its never too late! Well, if you are still not convinced, just showup at the Longhill township community center in NJ on the 6th and 7th of September and we have assembled a galaxy of erudite scholars who will praise my dear lord, Sri Lakshmi Narasimhan of Ahobilam, much better than what i have done here. For more information on this function contact one of either adiyEn, Jagan, Dileepan, Rengarajan, Anbil Ramaswamy, or Murali Kadambi. adiyEn Azhayiyasinger dAsan Ramesh Saranagapani PS : This post is not meant to hurt any ones feeling. All the members who have posted on the various DD's are good friends of mine and i have great respect for them. Please consider adiyEn post as one that is posted in the spirit of friendship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1998 Report Share Posted August 14, 1998 Srimathe Narayanaya Namaha On 8/13/98 9:40 PM Sri Ramesh Sarangapani wrote : Quote ________ It is one thing to preach the charama slokam, but something all together different to execute it day-in-and-day-out (for all Tiru-alli-kAni vasis :-)) Unquote _______ Just because we are not able to follow what is said in the Charama Slokam doesn't mean that the Divya DEsam has lost its prominence. It is we who should follow what is said in the Charama Slokam. If we are not following the same, it is no good, be it that we are in ThiruvallikkENi or Ahobilam or any other Divya DEsam. Quote __________ Of what use is the sweet smile on the tirumukam of tiruvenkatamudayan, if i can enjoy it for only a fraction of a second? (may be a minute...if i can spare 10 bucks :-)) Unquote __________ Atleast we can see his smile for a fraction of a second and for a minute on sparing 10 bucks, but none of us can see the EmberumAns in Paramapadham and Vaikuntam with this body. Does this mean that they are of no significance? Once again let me bring Thondar-adi-podi-AzhwAr in to picture. He says ".. ichchuvai thavira yAn pOi indhira lOgam ALum, achchuvai perinum vEndEn..". While he praises Ranganathan by this paasuram, we can also interpret this as the ArchAvatAra swaroopam of emberumAn and say that even the fraction of second smile is enought for me. (This really doesn't mean that I am siding towards Thirumalai in my argument!!) Quote ____________ Of what use is even our pEriya perumal, if he refuses to budge from his "bed"? Unquote __________ Good, is Sri Malolan coming out of his Sannidhi every day so that he can be superior to our Periya PerumAL? Quote __________ Devadirajan, ofcourse, standing on Attigiri and holding his abhaya-hastam is showering His benign glance on all His devotees. But then it takes just one "dancer" (Arayar) to snatch away even his darling son (Udayavar). Prersonally, i would think twice before taking refuge under such a "vehuli" :-) Unquote ____________ Beautiful. But please note that our PerumAL became a VehuLi just for the benefit of Sri VaishNavism. If he would have been more possessive about his son Ramanujar, where will all the now rich Sri VaishNava sampradhAyam be? So please keep Ahobilam at the bay. Please, please, please, please, take this in a lighter way as an argument. I have no disregards for Ahobilam in anyway or could there be any for anybody. All the above is meant only in a lighter vein. Forgive me if I have hurt any body's feelings. adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh P.S: However there is no question of changing my mind over Srirangam!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1998 Report Share Posted August 14, 1998 Dear Bhagavathas, While we are enjoying the postings on greatness of each divya desam, the Azwar's words "Angu appozude" while singing Singapiran perumai,from Shri Ramesh Sarangapani's post took my memory a couple of months back where Tridandi Jeeyar Swamy was giving excellent discourses in Denver and few experts on the above words are as follows: As Hiraniyan was getting ready to break the pillar, he wanted one final confirmation from Prahaladan. Is your Narayanan present in this pillar? Yes, father. Not only this pillar, he is present everywhere and every time says Prahaladan. Are you sure? Yes father, please go ahead and check it out. "Bang" goes Hiraniyan and our Lord appears. This is where the Azwar's words "Angu appozude" comes into play. He could have simply sang "avan viya thondriya en singapiran perumai" instead he added "Angu appozude" so as to mean something. What is he trying to convey ? Consider this: When Hiraniyan hit the pillar at a particular spot and out Lord came out from some other spot, then Hiraniyan, who was looking for some loopholes in the words of Prahaladan, would claim that your Narayana is not present at the spot I hit and so your claim as to "He is present everywhere" is false. To convey this, our Azwar added the words "Angu"(at that spot). Similar claim could also be made by Hiraniyan, as regards the time, if our Lord appeared after few seconds of Hiraniyan's hitting the pillar. Hence the words "appozude"(at that time)was used. Now, if we read "Angu appozude avan viya thondriya en singapiran perumai" (adiyEn's rough translation "The glory of Lord Narasimhan who appeared then and there to destroy Hiraniyan")the first two words does mean something special about Singapiran's avataram. Any shortcoming in the expert belongs to me and all the appreciation goes to the Acharya. adiyEn, c.s. ramesh Colorado Springs. ------------------------ Ramesh Sarangapani <sarangap isn't there one to vote for ahObilam? Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:18:38 -0400 (EDT) bhakti Kaliyan while singing the glory of Azhagiya singar (at Tiruvalikani) narrates succintly the avathara rahasyam of Lakshmi Narasimhan and says "Angu Appoyude avan viya thondriya en singapiran perumai"...meaning "that day when his parama bhakta, Prahaladan, was in distress, our Lord came to his rescue in an instant". ---------------End of Original Message----------------- ----------------------- Name: Ram Ramesh E-mail: Ram.Ramesh 08/14/98 Time: 09:51:10 This message sent by NetManage's award winning standards based e-mail client Z-Mail Pro NetManage - Complete PC Connectivity Solutions ----------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1998 Report Share Posted August 14, 1998 Dear Bhaktas, I thoroughly enjoyed Sri Sarangapani's testimony in support of Ahobilam. I wish to point out that Sri Vaishnavas need not pay 10 bucks for a one second Darshanam of Tiruvenkatan. One service which is absolutely free is the daily SaRRmuRai Seva. One can get a Darshan of the Lord from less than 10 ft away for 25 minutes without paying a single penny! Again glory be to Goda Piratti for blessing us with these verses, for these pave the way to Lord Srinivasa for free! Thanks again Sri Sarangapani. Best Wishes, Muralidhar Rangaswamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1998 Report Share Posted August 14, 1998 Sri Murali Rangaswamy wrote: > > I wish to point out that Sri Vaishnavas need not pay > 10 bucks for a one second Darshanam of Tiruvenkatan. One service > which is absolutely free is the daily SaRRmuRai Seva. One can get > a Darshan of the Lord from less than 10 ft away for 25 minutes > without paying a single penny! Again glory be to Goda Piratti for > blessing us with these verses, for these pave the way to > Lord Srinivasa for free! Thanks again Sri Sarangapani. This is true, and I have had the blessed fortune of seeing thiruvEngadam udaiyaan unobstructed during this sEvai, without anyone saying "jargaNdi" (Telugu speakers, please pardon any mistakes in spelling!). I would like to point out that unfortunately, this sEvai is only open to men, not to women, and the men have to wear yajnopavIta, wear thirumaN, and have no sideburns or exclusive mustache. This restricts it essentially to brahmins, or to those adventurous few who don a yajnopavIta to sneak in! Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 1998 Report Share Posted August 14, 1998 Sri: Srimate Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha ParaBrahmane Namaha Dear Sri Venkatesh , namo nArAyanA. kindly accept adiyen's pranAmams . ------------------------- Sri Venkatesh wrote : Sri Ramesh Sarangapani wrote : Quote ________ It is one thing to preach the charama slokam, but something all together different to execute it day-in-and-day-out (for all Tiru-alli-kAni vasis :-)) Unquote _______ Just because we are not able to follow what is said in the Charama Slokam doesn't mean that the Divya DEsam has lost its prominence. It is we who should follow what is said in the Charama Slokam. If we are not following the same, it is no good, be it that we are in ThiruvallikkENi or Ahobilam or any other Divya DEsam. Adiyen : The intention of Sri Ramesh has been unfortunately interpreted wrongly by Sri Venkatesh & adiyen can understand that it would have hurt him very badly. But , Sri Venkatesh didn't project that "hurt" in his later postings & was kind in taking that also somewhat lightly though he couldn't have digested his interpretation of Sri Ramesh's statement . Actually , the statement of Sri Ramesh regarding the " Practise of SaranAgati" was nothing to do with the KainkaryaparAs of ThiruvallikkENi ( ie. The statement doesn't mean that the devotees dedicated to Thiruvallikeni Divya Desam are not prapannAs ) . The purport of the remark was simply that MAlolan goes from village to village & AzhagiyaSingars perform "Prapatti" to the devotees , which is accepted by MAlolan , whereas in other Divya Desams , this doesn't take place ( ie. AchAryAs doesn't perform the Prapatti to devotees in front of PerumALs of other Divya Desams , whereas in front of MAlolan , it is happening . ) . So, Sri Ramesh says that eventhough pArthasArathy perumAL did the upadesam of Charama slokam , He is not accepting the "Prapatti" the way in which MAlolan is accepting => Not efficient in practise , though a great preacher . Ofcourse this has to taken in proper spirit & the whole debate regarding this issue has that inherent assumption . The remark was certainly not on bhAgavathAs performing kainkaryam to pArthasArathy perumAL . adiyen anantha padmanAbha dAsan krishnArpanam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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