Guest guest Posted August 14, 1998 Report Share Posted August 14, 1998 Sri: Dearest Sisters and Brothers, jnAnAnanda-mayam devam nirmalas sphaTikAkRtim | AdhAram sarvavidyAnAm hayagrIvam upAsmahe || Introduction: Generally vidyaarmbam among sri vaishnavas begins with a prayer to Lord Sri Hayagreeva, preceded by obeisance to our Acharyaas. Even today Vijayadasami and Sarsvathi pooja are celebrated in Srivaishnavas homes with the recitation of Sri Hayagreeva sthOthram. (in our home at least!). The Parakala Mutt, situated in Mysore, is one the most ancient and premier Srivaishnava religious institutions in the country that came into being for the specific purpose of propagating Sri Ramanujam's Visishtadvaita philosophy. Sri Lakshmi Hayagreeva (the Lord with the horse's face) Haya-horse: greeva-neck: this Lord is the presiding deity for all knowledge - 'Aadhaaram sarvavidhyaanaaam Hayagrivam upaasmahe'- is the principal deity of the Parakala Mutt, the icon being one of the most beautiful ever adorning the mutt. Sri Hayagreevar Divya MangaLa vigraham is also the president deity for Sri Poundareekapuram Andavan Ashramam and also greatly revered by Sri Ahobila Mutt and Andavan Ashram. SRI HAYAGREEVA AVATAAR The avataram of Hayagriva Bhagavan took place to restore the Vedas to Brahma. Emperumaan had taught BrahmA the Creation through His breath of VedAs. Then, Brahma could understand how various kalpams had begun due to Emperumaan's vEdOpasEam. He became extremely proud and head strong of his position as the creator and about his powers/jnAnam. Sriman Narayana as usual wanted to teach him and decided to remove his (Brahma's) pride. A couple of water droplets from the lotus seat of the Lord incarnated as two Asuras, Madhu and Kaitabha; Due to Bhgawath sankalpam, one (kaitapan) was of thamO guNA and the other (madhu) was of rajO guNA. They stole the Vedas from Brahma. Emperumaan smiled. Unable to carry on his work of creation without the Vedas, Brahma rushed to the Lord and pleaded the Lord Narayana for mercy and saving Vedas. BrahmA prostrated to the Lord and said Vedas alone are my eyes; they are my wealth; They are my Lord. The whole world is surrounded by darkness due to the absence of Vedas. How am I to proceed on my creation without the Vedas? Please arise from the Yoga nithrA and help me Lord! Please give me back my eyes which have been blinded by my own pride. "vEdhA: mE paramam sakshI: vEdhA: mE paramam param/ vEdhA: mE paramam dharma, vEdhA mE brahma sOtthamam//" Lord Narayana incarnated as Hayagriva, appeared as the white Horse faced, faultless sphatika hued form, satva mUrthy, with Divya tEjas, and lustrous form and destroyed the Asuras and restored the Vedas to Brahma. (This avtaar was made on a AvaNi month, sravaNa nakshthram paurNami thithi during some kalpam). With a lovely long nose, like the heaven surrounded by white bright stars, the asva siras (head of horse) illumined the whole world. The upper world and the lower world became His ears. The rays of Sun's brightest lustres are His hairs at the nape of His neck (pidari). BhUmi became His forhead; Ganga and Saraswathi became two lovely eyebrows; Chandra Sooryar (The Moon and the Sun) became His two eyes; SandhyA dEvathai became His nostrils; Pithru devathAs became His teeth; GolOkam and Brahma lOkam became His two lips; kalaraathri became His neck; The Divya tEjas Sathva mUrthy Sri Hayagreevan thus, in a grandest beautiful manner appeared. He rushed to PaathaaLa lOkam and raised His "uthGitham" in samavEdha swaram and terrified Madhukaitapa asurAs; They hid the VedhAs (which were in the form of babies) and ran away from the scene. Sri Hayagreevar handed over the Vedas to BrahmA and went back. Madhukaitapar searched for the sound which terrified them earlier but found the Vedas missing. They rushed to BrahmA who in turn was terribly scared and sought the help of Sriman Narayanan. Sri Hayagreevar made a "hoo….n" sign and fought with asurAs and killed them. BrahmA continued his work of creation. This avataar is described in VishNu puraaNam as "mathsya kUrma varaaha ashva simha rUpaathibhi:". In BrahmANda purANam during maheshwara-naradha samvaadham, Naradha describes this avthaar. Even when naradha praises Sri rangan in this PurANam, he says "ashva sirasE namah:". That is why the Lord is called Madhusoodhanan. (for having killed madhu and kaitabhar). Sri Paraasara Bhattar in his Sri Rangarajasthavam (utthara sathakam-52 nd slOka) sais "Sri ranganAthA! You, as Hayagreeva rUpI, removed the hurdles of madhu, kaitapar to BrahmA and recovered the VedhAs and saved the whole world!". In MahAbharatham, Shanthi parvam, hayasira upaakhyaanam details Hayagreeva avathaaram. Srimadh Bhagawatham, too, describes Hayagreeva avtaar. 2. There is another version of this avtaar and killing of asurAs. When paraLayam was about to end, Bhagawaan out of His dirt from the ear drum made two small solid balls and dropped on the Lotus leaf and BrahmA activated the PrANa vaayu, which gave life to these two, as madhu and kaitabhar. These asurAs appeared and grew up. BrahmA started off his creation and Vedhas were snatched away by these two asurAs. When the most compassionate Lord, Parama kaaruNikO Bhagawaan wished to please the asurAs, without killing them, asked them as to what they want as a boon. These two asurAs said "we can give You what You want". That is it! The Lord decided to kill them. They said "Can You kill us only where there is no cover for the sky?". The Lord immediately took Hyagreeva avtaar and removed His cloth on the Thighs, put them on His thighs and killed them. Bhagawaan's legs house the Earth and the space/sky. Since the Lord removed the cloth from His thighs and killed them, He still complied with what they challenged Him. What they thought was impossible to happen, He could make it happen with no effort. He, thus saved the Vedas and saves the world. The moral is: thamas, rajas guNAs are to be destroyed to reach Him. 3. There is yet another interesting "different" version in BrahmANda PuraaNam- Sri Devi Bhagawatham. There was a asurA, by name Hayagreeva (with horse face) who did his severe penance/ tapas on Parvathi Devi. Parvathi, pleased with his tapas, appeared in his front and the asurA asked for "no death". She said "Impossible-can not be granted". Then the asurA amended the request and said "Except for a horse faced one, no one else can kill me". (thinking that it can never happen!). She consented. He became tremendously proud of his achievement and started harassing every deva and rishi. He troubles all three worlds. He snatched away the Vedas from BrahmA and disappeared. Then is the history. The Lord appeared as Hayagreevar and killed the asurA to save the world and bring back the Vedas. 4. There is yet another puraaNic narration on Hayagreevar. At Kanchi, Agasthya muni was on severe penance on Sriman Narayanan and the Lord appeared as Hayagreevar and was immensely pleased with his tapas. He blessed the muni with Devi mahaathmyam. This is described in BrahmANda puraaNam Sri Hayagreeva agasthya samvaadham. 5. During Tripura samhaaram to entice the asurAs, the Lord appeared as "other religious" saint (buddhism?) and appeared as Hayagreevar to mislead the asurAs from the Veda maargham (from the path of Vediv traditions and sayings). Thus, He made them lose their ability to get saved and the Lord won. (As also claimed and reported in Buddhism in a web site as follows: Like Mahakala, Hayagriva is one of the Eight Great Protectors of Buddhism, a guardian and a destroyer of obstacles to enlightenment(!). He is a popular personal, or tutelary, deity among the Gelug order of Tibetan Buddhism. Hayagriva's crown of skulls is surmounted by Hayagriva's attribute, a horse's head, alluding to his origin as a horse-headed Hindu god. The terrific neigh that emanates from this horse's head is said to pierce through the illusory nature of reality. Although he was also popular in Tibet and China, Hayagriva's association with the horse may have had a particular appeal to the Mongols. (This, I read in the Net in some buddhism web site!) Swami Desikan in his "navarathna maalai" says " puRamuyarttha asurargatku puRam uRaittha poyyinaan". (to explain the Lord thus, misleading the asurAs by taking non-vedic religion (Buddhism)). Scriptures on Hayagreevar (Madhusoodhanan): - Next post please Ram Ram With Best Regards NarayaNa dAsan madhavakkannan ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1998 Report Share Posted August 17, 1998 Sri : Srimate Lakshmi Nrusimha Para Brahmane Namaha Dear Sri Madhava Kannan & other devotees , namo nArAyanA . kindly accept adiyen's pranAmams . Sri mAdhava kannan wrote : 2. There is another version of this avtaar and killing of asurAs. When 3. There is yet another interesting "different" version in BrahmANda PuraaNam- Sri Devi Bhagawatham. There was a asurA, by name Hayagreeva ---------------- adiyen : adiyen guesses that Sriman mAdhava kannan didn't quite express his thiru ULLam (intention) exactly here (choice of words may be misinterpreted by readers like adiyen). There cannot be multiple versions of the same incident / LeelA of Sriman NArAyanA with explicit contradictions. If they are quite contradictory in evidence (pramAnam) it is to be understood that the narrations pertain to the actual incidents that occured in different kalpAs ie. In one kalpA , nArAyanA performed the LeelA as reported in one pramAnam & in another kalpA , nArAyanA performed the leelA as reported in another pramAnam . The two contradictory pramAnams obviously are not narrating the same incident . The other possibility is that both the LeelAs took place in the same kalpA at different time periods . Depending upon the particular incidents in question one can always come to some conclusions like that . For instance , Suka Brahma Maharishi (Srimad BhAgavatham) while describing the most glorious Nrusimha avatAram says that even Goddess Lakshmi was unable to face the angry of Nrusimhan & kept some distance ( Ofcourse pirAtti's intention to glorify the bhaktA PrahalAdA is understood ) . This is the way it is described in other purAnams dealing with Nrusimha avatAram ,with one exception as that of pAdma purAnam . Our dear Kaliyan (Thirumangai AzhvAr ) describes the nectarian pastime of how Nrusimhan made pirAtti seated on His left lap & embraced Her with 1000 hands ( ie. With so much love ) giving the sevai as that of MAlolan , after slaying the demon Hiranyakashipu . This same description is given in pAdma purAnam also This doesn't mean that vyAsar is writting some fiction story with some imagination & Kaliyan is in a dream world of his own imaginations & speculations . Unfortunately all the rich & glorious writtings / revealations of Rishis & AzhvArs are categorically branded as "myths "& blasphemy after blasphemy are made on these things over the years by many ignorant men. These are not some "symbolism" of the purAnic level ; personification of this & that etc & are different from "vedic - level" . All these funny & speculatory ideas are somehow prevalent these days . VyAsar/ Sukar being parama bhAgavathAs had the qualification to enjoy the nectarian pastimes of NArAyanA in front of their eyes (jn~Ana drushti ) . NArAyanA reveals to them . Similarly MAlolan revealed His pastimes to Kaliyan ( No wonder why he is an AzhvAr ). Nrusimhan performed a type of pastime in one kalpA & another pAstime in a different kalpA & are revealed to such parama bhAgavathAs . It is not a joke to become a great bhAgavathA like either vyAsA or kaliyan . Humility is needed to understand these things . NArAyanA out of great compassion performs many leelAs for teaching some dharmA /morals to the baddha jIvAtmAs . This doesn't mean that all of His leelAs are for that only. There are many instances where He & His devotees enjoyed their communion . However , it is strongly to be noted that vyAsar is not writing some fiction to teach morals . Such blasphemies are somehow floated around by many & its undigestable for we Sri VaishnavAs / devotees of Sriman nArAyanA . namo nArAyanA adiyen anantha padmanAba dAsan krishnArpanam P.S. : Sorry dear Sriman Madhavakannan for conveying some of adiyen's frustrations using your postings as a vyAjA . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1998 Report Share Posted August 17, 1998 > However , it is strongly to be noted that vyAsar is not writing some fiction to teach > morals . Such blasphemies are somehow floated around by many & its undigestable for ^^^^^^^^^^^ > we Sri VaishnavAs / devotees of Sriman nArAyanA . The word "blasphemy" should not be a part of a SrI vaishnava's vocabulary, in my humble opinion. In this particular instance, are you saying that it is never the case that our elders, including vyAsa bhagavAn, used parables to teach us lessons? At least in the vedas, stories are used often to extol the performance of sacrifice. This is common in pUrva-mImAmsA, and is known as "pariplavana". The story may not have any basis in reality, other than its underlying significance. With respect to episodes from the purANa-s, there are some who accept them wholesale, and some who view them more allegorically or symbolically, thinking that they signify a truth that does not depend on the literal reality of the stories. My point is not to say one is wrong and the other correct. But it does no good to declare one viewpoint a blasphemy because it disagrees with one's understanding of sampradAyam -- I think it is safe to say that, at least among members of this list, no lack of reverence and no contempt is shown in either viewpoint. AzhvAr emberumAnAr dEsikan jIyar tiruvadigaLE saraNam Thanking you, daasan Mani P.S. Dear Members: please take care in formatting your paragraphs. Do not let a line be more than 60 or 70 characters long, or your message will be far less readable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1998 Report Share Posted August 17, 1998 On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Mani Varadarajan wrote: > With respect to episodes from the purANa-s, there are some > who accept them wholesale, and some who view them more allegorically > or symbolically, thinking that they signify a truth that does > not depend on the literal reality of the stories. My point is > not to say one is wrong and the other correct. But it does no > good to declare one viewpoint a blasphemy because it disagrees > with one's understanding of sampradAyam -- I think it is safe > to say that, at least among members of this list, no lack of > reverence and no contempt is shown in either viewpoint. > I second Mani's view on this matter as I find myself that a literal interpretion of many of the incidents/descriptions lead to mutual contradictions between different purANAs (I will put aside the classification of these into Sattva, Rajas, Tamas for now) and also within a purANa. For example the differences in the very geneaology of the Solar Dynasty between Srimad Bhagavatam and Ramayana, the difference in the story of Sunasshepa (DevarAta) and many others. How do you explain literally the hiding of Bhoomi by HiranyAksha in the 'waters'? You also have to keep in mind the interpolations in almost all of these works. I also thought I will raise another doubt that I have and haven't yet got it clarified. This pertains to the dasavataras as described in Srimad Bhagavatam. In the many dasavatara stotrams that I have come across, the order is always matsya, kUrma, varAha, narasimha, vamana, parasurama etc. (in fact a number of our people wave this card to let others know this anticipates the Evolutionary theory :-)). But if one reads Bhagavatam the kUrma avatara comes after narasimha avatara. It also fits in there in that the king of the daityas is Bali (the son of Virochana and the grandson of Prahlada). Can someone try to explain the reason for this difference. (the order is the same whether one takes the dasAvatAra stotras of Sri Jayadeva, Sri Desikan or Sri Ananda tIrtha). -gopal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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