Clarification on MaNavaaLa maamuni?

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Sri:

 

Dearest Sisters and Brothers,

 

A couple of days back, when I was talking to my father over phone, I was

telling him that we are going to celebrate our Swami Desikan

Thirunkashthram (Oct 1) and Sri Manavaala MamunigalL (Oct 26) together

at Singapore NAMA gathering.

 

Immediately, he said " Do you know? ManavaaLa maamuni was the cousin of

H.H AdhivaN SadagOpa Jeer (The First jeer of Ahobila Mutt which was

established by him) and it was ManavaaLa maamuni who gave kaashaayam to

the Jeer. Due to lack of time, I did not probe further.

 

But when I read the biographies of both of them, (whatever I could

access), I did not see any reference to this relation (which is

surprising that too pleasant! ). Except that MaNavaaLa maamuni was born

in 1370 AD while Sri AdhivaN SadagOpa Jeer was born in 1398.

 

Nor did I doubt my father's statement. he must have heard from someone

or read it at Srirangam. I am any way going to ask him. But does any

member have any info on this?

 

Please clarify.

 

Ram Ram

 

With Best Regards

 

NarayaNa dAsan madhavakkannan

 

 

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Sri Madhavakannan wrote:

> Immediately, he said " Do you know? ManavaaLa maamuni was the cousin of

> H.H AdhivaN SadagOpa Jeer (The First jeer of Ahobila Mutt which was

> established by him) and it was ManavaaLa maamuni who gave kaashaayam to

> the Jeer. Due to lack of time, I did not probe further.

[...]

> Nor did I doubt my father's statement. he must have heard from someone

> or read it at Srirangam. I am any way going to ask him. But does any

> member have any info on this?

 

Varadhan can clarify, but it is actually the other way around.

maNavALa mAmuni took sannyAsa dIksha from Adi vaN SaThakOpa jIyar

at the command of Lord Ranganatha.

 

Even though Sri SaThakOpa jIyar was much younger than mAmuni,

he had taken sannyAsa dIksha very early in life, since he never

married. At the time that mAmunigaL desired to take this stage

of life, SaThakOpa jIyar was undoubtedly one of the most eminent

sannyAsis around, which is why mAmunigaL took dIksha from him.

 

I have not heard that mAmunigaL and SaThakOpa jIyar were related

in their pUrvASramas.

 

Mani

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>Varadhan can clarify, but it is actually the other way around.

>maNavALa mAmuni took sannyAsa dIksha from Adi vaN SaThakOpa jIyar

>at the command of Lord Ranganatha.

 

Sri Mani is correct . Sri MaNavALa Maamuni (1370-1444 AD )

was given SanyAsa Aasramam by Adhi VaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar ,

( 1379-1458 AD ) ,the founder of Ahobila Matam . H.H. the Jeeyar

was 9 years younger than MaNavALa Maamuni in age and outlived

latter by 14 years . Sri maNavALa Maamuni had a lot

of reverence for Swami Desikan(1268-1369 AD ) and used to refer

to him as "Abhiyukthar " ( the revered One ).

 

Adhi VaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar received SanyAsam

from Sri lakshmi Nrusimha BhagavAn of Ahobilam

in person , when he was 20 years old .He was

never married prior to sanyAsam .

>Even though Sri SaThakOpa jIyar was much younger than mAmuni,

>he had taken sannyAsa dIksha very early in life, since he never

>married. At the time that mAmunigaL desired to take this stage

>of life, SaThakOpa jIyar was undoubtedly one of the most eminent

>sannyAsis around, which is why mAmunigaL took dIksha from him.

 

The other AchArya for whom Sri Adhi VaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar

gave SanyAsam was his successor , the 2nd Jeeyar , SrivaNN

SatakOpa Sri NaarAyaNa Yathindhra MahA Desikan who reigned

from 1458-1473 AD . Sri AnnamAchArya received BaranyAsam

from the First Jeeyar at the command of Sri VenakatEsA

of Thirumalai.Both the first and Second as well as

the 10th and the 12 th Jeeyars of Ahobuila Mutt have their

final resting places ( BrundhAvanams ) at Melkote.

The other puNya Bhumis wiht multiple BrundhAvanamas

are ThiruveLLUr( 32, 33, 34 , 35 and 42nd Jeeyars)

and Nrusimhapuram ( 25,26,30, 37 and 38th Jeeyars).

With Sri malOlan's grace , I hope to visit these

as many of these scred sites that he will give me

strenght to visit in a jounrney of 7 days to India .

Sri MalOlan ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam ,

V.Sadagopan

 

V.Sadagopan

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>

> Sri Mani is correct . Sri MaNavALa Maamuni (1370-1444 AD )

> was given SanyAsa Aasramam by Adhi VaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar ,

> ( 1379-1458 AD ) ,the founder of Ahobila Matam . H.H. the Jeeyar

> was 9 years younger than MaNavALa Maamuni in age and outlived

> latter by 14 years . Sri maNavALa Maamuni had a lot

> of reverence for Swami Desikan(1268-1369 AD ) and used to refer

> to him as "Abhiyukthar " ( the revered One ).

 

Sri. MaNi and Sri. SadagOpan are correct in that Sri. maNavALa

mAmnigaL's

sanyAsAshrama dIkshai was done by Sri. AdivaN satakOpa jIyar.

MaNi is also right in that this dIkshai was done by Sri. AdivaN sadagOpa

 

jIyar svAmi on the command of RanganAthar.

 

Not many people may know this, but in 'AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar

thiruvadigaLE

saraNam', the word jIyar basically denotes Sri. MaNavALa mAmunigaL.

He was also known as periya jIyar.

 

Sri. maNavALa mAmuni has 11 names

periya JIyar, MaNavALA mAmuni, sowmya jAmAtru yOgIndrar,

ramyajAmAtru yOgIndrar, yatIndrap pravaNar, azhagiya maNavALa jIyar,

kAnthOpayanthA, vara vara muni, varayOgi, irAmAnusan ponnadi,

ruchira jAmAtru yOgIndrar.

 

kidAmbi thirumalai AiyangAr was the AchAryan for Sri BhAshyam,

srutaprakAsika.

kUra kulOththuma dAsar was the AchAryan for tatva trayam and related

granthAs.

of course, thiruvAymozhip piLLai was the AchAryan for thiruvAymozhi.

 

 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam,

Thirumalai Anandanpillai Varadhan