Guest guest Posted November 3, 1998 Report Share Posted November 3, 1998 I request the learned members of the group to explain the difference between the terms para bhakti and parama bhakti.What is para jnAna? adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan V.Srimahavishnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 1998 Report Share Posted November 3, 1998 Sri: Dearest Sisters and Brothers, Sri Mahavishnu had requested for the meanings/definition of parabhakti. ParajnAnam and Parama bhakti. The little about what I know of them is: The bhakti/love that draws the devotee to the Supreme is Para Bhakti. The knowledge / jnAnam or Vision that is granted due to the grace of Emperumaan Sriman Narayanan to the devotee is Para Jnanam The intensity to the highest degree beyond which one can not even survive and the greatest tvarai (urgency) to see the Lord and reach Him then and there, the inability to move away from seeing the Lord / enjoying Him or the jnAnam/Vision that Emperumaan had blessed Him with is Parama Bhakti. Sri RamanujAchAryA prays for them in SaraNAgathy Gadhyam. PiraaTTi says with affection: "asthuthE" (So be it). Narayana Narayana Narayana dAsan Madhavakkannan ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 1998 Report Share Posted November 4, 1998 > *********************************** Srimathe Sri Lakshminrisimha Parabrahmane Nama: Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: Srimathe Nigamantha Mahadesikaya Nama: Srimathe Athivan Satakopa Yathindra Mahadesikaya Nama: Srimathe Srivan Satakopa Sri Vedantadesika Yathindra Mahadesikaya Nama: Srimathe Sri Lakshminrisimha Dhivya Padhukasevaka Srivan Satakopa Sri Narayana Yathindra Mahadesikaya Nama: If adiyen remembers it right, three statements in sanskrit define these three states : darshanam parabhaktih syat parajnanam tu samgamaha punar vishlesha bhitistu paramabhaktiruchyate sight of lord is parabhakti. When an aspirant gets the sight of lord in a particular mature state of bhaktiyoga which is usually attained after self realization, which usually results from karmayoga and / or jnanayoga. This darshana is not actual sight of lord, since Sri ramanuja states that it is darshana samanakara - or equivalent to actual sight (but not exactly). (NOTE: bimba -darshana or sight of lord's form is taken as prerequisite for moksha in madhva system of thought) parajnana is actually meeting lord in bhaktiyoga. Even here meeting means nearness, interaction involving intense affection of jivatman to his only controller, support and seshin and reciprocal mercy and outpourings of love from God. Here the bhaktiyogi's experience of God is higher than that of the previous stage. Then God, after revealing himself to the bhaktiyogi for a while, it seems, usually disappears from his vision leaving this jiva in utmost misery; in this state of misery it seems there is a powerful yearning which is uncontrollable and unbearable to the jivatman to have that sight again..... (thank GOD! this state of misery usually does not befall unworthy souls like me ! or else this separation would be unbearable) .. ( I am just making fun, even though this is a very desirable state) Then it seems, after a while GOd appears in vivid splendour to these bhaktiyogis thus creating a surge of unlimited happiness in the aspirant who is overwhelmed with joy. In that state of joy, itseems the bhaktiyogi is subjected to great fear that he may lose sight of that glorious Lord again and that he can never bear it. this is the "punar vishlesha bheeti" or having fear again that he may lose the sight of his dear Lord. this stage is parama bhakti. "yada hyevaisha etasmin udaram antaram kurute atha tasya bhayam bhavati tattveva bhayam vidhusho manvanasya" taittiriyopanishad even if the sight of that lord is lost for half a moment, a great fear takes over this mature bhaktiyogi (vidhushah). This is is the fear for the learned vidwan or jnani or bhaktiyogi. adiyen Krishna Kalale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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