Sri Parthasarathy Perumal - Triplicane

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+AD4APg-Dear Sri.Kannan,

 

+AD4APg-going by both sthalapuranam and by historic records,SriRanganatha's

+AD4APg-sannadi was earlier to parthasartathy.

+AD4APg-our freind /Emperuman Sriparthasarathy only

+AD4APg-came as a guest there.(onda vanthava perumal)

 

+AD4APg-it is natural that during first alwar period and thriumazhisai alwar,

 

+AD4APg-it was only Ranganatha the main diety in that temple and Sri

+AD4APg-Parthasarathi

+AD4APg-sannadhi was not existent.

 

+AD4APg-even today Sri Vedavalli thayar(presiding thayar) is only associated

+AD4APg-with Srui Ranganatha and

+AD4APg-not with our freind Sri parthasarathi.

 

+AD4APg-regards

 

+AD4APg-K.M.Narayanan.

 

 

Sri Bhu Nilla Devi Sametha Sri Parthasarathy Swami Ne Namaha :

 

I wish to submit the following :

 

I have read and heard this argument that Sri Ranganathar shrine in

Triplicane is older than Sri Parthasarathy. I dont necessarily buy that.

Because Peyalwar who is a Mudhal Alwar and his pasuram refers directly to

Sri Parthasarathy Perumal.

 

Vandudhaitha Vendiraigal Sempavala Vennmutham

Andhi Viallakum Anni Vilakkaam

Endhai Oru Valli Thamarayall Onriya seer marbhan,

Thiruvallikenni yaan chenru.

 

And based on this for all nityapadi and for all important occassions

Munram Thiruvandhadhi +ACI-Thirukkanden+ACI- is used for Thodakkam for all the

emberumans in this kshethram. Clearly +ACI-Endhai Oruvalli Thamarayal Onriya

seer Marbaan+ACI- is Sri Venkatakrishnan who adores Lakshmi in his Chest to this

day. Sri Bakthisaran 's period is after mudhal alwars and there is no

debate on that.

 

O.K., Sri Vedavalli Thayar is not the presiding thayar, Sri Rukmani is and

of course Sri Vedavalli is associated only with Sri Ranganathar.

 

I would encourage you (Sri KM Narayanan) to refer to Geethacharyan as Sri

Rukmani Sametha Sri Venkatakrshnan or Sri Krishnan and NOT as +ACI-Onda vandha

perumal+ACI-

 

 

Forgiive me for any mistakes.

 

Adyen

Murali Vanamamalai

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>Sri Murali wrote.....

>

> Sri Bhu Nilla Devi Sametha Sri Parthasarathy Swami Ne Namaha :

>

>I wish to submit the following :

>

>I have read and heard this argument that Sri Ranganathar shrine in

>Triplicane is older than Sri Parthasarathy. I dont necessarily buy

that.

>Because Peyalwar who is a Mudhal Alwar and his pasuram refers directly

to

>Sri Parthasarathy Perumal.

>

> Vandudhaitha Vendiraigal Sempavala Vennmutham

> Andhi Viallakum Anni Vilakkaam

> Endhai Oru Valli Thamarayall Onriya seer marbhan,

> Thiruvallikenni yaan chenru.

>

>And based on this for all nityapadi and for all important occassions

>Munram Thiruvandhadhi +ACI-Thirukkanden+ACI- is used for Thodakkam for

all the

>emberumans in this kshethram. Clearly +ACI-Endhai Oruvalli Thamarayal

Onriya

>seer Marbaan+ACI- is Sri Venkatakrishnan who adores Lakshmi in his

Chest to this

>day. Sri Bakthisaran 's period is after mudhal alwars and there is no

>debate on that.

>

>O.K., Sri Vedavalli Thayar is not the presiding thayar, Sri Rukmani

is and

>of course Sri Vedavalli is associated only with Sri Ranganathar.

>

>I would encourage you (Sri KM Narayanan) to refer to Geethacharyan as

Sri

>Rukmani Sametha Sri Venkatakrshnan or Sri Krishnan and NOT as

+ACI-Onda vandha

>perumal+ACI-

>

>

>Forgiive me for any mistakes.

>

>Adyen

>Murali Vanamamalai

>

>

>

srimathe Ramanujaya namaha:

 

Most Dear Sri Murali,

 

sorry for replying you late.

Well i appreciate your love towards Sri Parthasarathi.

 

However, i do not support your view. I would like to addd the following.

 

In Munram thiruvandadhi- the pasuram,

Vandudhaitha Vendiraigal Sempavala Vennmutham

> Andhi Viallakum Anni Vilakkaam

> Endhai Oru Valli Thamarayall Onriya seer marbhan,

> Thiruvallikenni yaan chenru.

>

 

does not refer to Sri parthasarathi.

 

the words "oru valli thamaraiyan onniya seer marvan" both verbatim and

the purport of alwar only refers to "a person whose thiru marbu is

decorated by the Goddess Sri.Lakshmi"

 

 

this is a comman usage of alwars when they refer to Emperuman.

in sanskrit, we can say Srinivasan,Srivathsan,Srivathsangan all this

refers to the "oru valli thamaraiyan onnisys seer marvan"

 

 

this is no way a direct reference to Sri Parthasarathi .

 

while i give this explanation, i am also lucky to refer to Sri.PBA'S

swamy's "divyartha Deepika" published in in 1929.

 

i give here verbatim translataion of some of the lines in the pasauram

,

 

"oru alli thamaraiyal"--- the piraati whose place is the lotus which has

got beatiful petals.

 

"senru onniya seer marban"-- such lakshmi who has taken as her place

in such beatiful thirumarbu.

 

"vanthu uthaitha venthiraigal..muttham"-- due to the white surf of the

sea, you find white pearls and red pavazham.

 

"anthi vilakkum anivilakkam"-which has deepams which connotes sandhya

kalam.

 

 

 

Further, reciting munram thiruvanthathi during amavasai,ekadesi etc, is

a normal practice in many divya desams . not only in triplicane.

 

i wish some of our members throw light on this.

 

 

i think you were offended by my reference to Sri Parthasarathi as "onda

vantha perumal"

 

i apologise for this. it is only due to my immense love to that lord.

we in lighter vein in triplicane refer to him as "karuppan",

"thalaivar" etc.

 

however, the bottom line is that "Senthamizpaduvar"(muthal alwars") and

also bakthisaran do not refer to Sri Parthasarathi when they sung on

this divya desam.

 

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,

 

K.M.Narayanan

 

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