Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 Dear Bhaktas, During the month of maargazhi, which we will be upon us in two weeks' time, tiru-ArAdhanam is supposed to be done before sunrise, as I understand it. My doubt is as follows: on ordinary days, those of us who have the yajnopavIta are supposed to first do prAtah sandhyAvandanam as the sun rises, then continue with brahma yajnam and other nitya-karmas, followed by mAdhyAhnikam, and then finally ArAdhanam. [Those without the yajnopavIta, including women, are (luckily?) free from many of these obligatory karmas and can straightaway proceed to the pleasing duty of ArAdhanam.] What is the procedure during maargazhi? It is incumbent upon us, if at all possible, to begin prAtah sandhyAvandanam before sunrise and do the morning gAyatri-japam as the sun rises. Does this mean that ArAdhanam should be performed before sandhyAvandanam during maargazhi? Those in the know are requested to please fill me in on the details. Thanks, tirukkacci nambigaL daasan Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 Sri: Dearest Sisters and Brothers, My doubt is different. We, "sin"gapore srivaishnavas, have been reciting ThiruppallaaNdu, ThiruppaLLiyezhucchi, ThiruppAvai, Amalanaadhipiraan, Swami Desikan SthOthrams and Adaikkalappatthu followed by Sri Vishnusahasranaamam on all Saturday mornings at Srinivasa PerumAL Koil at Simhapuri . My question is: Can we follow the same sequence and composition of SthOthrams during Margazhi, too? (during anadhyana period). This temple, belongs to Vaikanasam, I suppose. Thanks for your reply. Narayana Narayana Narayana dAsan Madhavakkannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 SrI: SrImatE SrI Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmanE namaha Dear SrI Mani, namO nArAyaNA. pranAmams. SrI Mani Varadarajan wrote: > Dear Bhaktas, > > During the month of maargazhi, which we > will be upon us in two weeks' time, tiru-ArAdhanam > is supposed to be done before sunrise, as I > understand it. > Yes. This is a special tiru-ArAdhanam during dhanur mAsam and is not the usual Ijyai. > My doubt is as follows: on ordinary days, those > of us who have the yajnopavIta are supposed to > first do prAtah sandhyAvandanam as the sun > rises, then continue with brahma yajnam and > other nitya-karmas, followed by mAdhyAhnikam, > and then finally ArAdhanam. prAtah sandhyAvandanam is not to be done strictly during sun rise; rather before sun rises and when stars are still visible. > What is the procedure during maargazhi? It is > incumbent upon us, if at all possible, to begin > prAtah sandhyAvandanam before sunrise and > do the morning gAyatri-japam as the sun rises. > Does this mean that ArAdhanam should be performed > before sandhyAvandanam during maargazhi? SandhyAvandanam has to be done anyway before sun rise. Dhanur mAsa special tiru-ArAdhanam is also done before sun rise. But, this is not "Ijyai" (usual tiru-ArAdhanam) . A gruhastA has to perform pancha mahA yaj~nAs and also the Ijyai as usual. dhanur mAsam ArAdhanam is a special additional ArAdhanam during the Brahma muhurtam. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan ananthapadmanAbha dAsan krishNArpaNam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1998 Report Share Posted December 1, 1998 Sri Anand wrote: > Yes. This is a special tiru-ArAdhanam during dhanur mAsam and is > not the usual Ijyai. Can someone, perhaps Anand himself, provide us with a brief description of the krama (procedure) of this special ArAdhanam? Does it also involve all the same Asanas and upacAras? > prAtah sandhyAvandanam is not to be done strictly during sun > rise; rather before sun rises and when stars are > still visible. Are you certain of this? I am pretty sure I have read that one must begin the sandhyA before sunrise, but ideally, the japam should be done as the sun rises (and as the sun sets in the evening), because one is supposed to meditate on the adorable effulgence (savitur vareNyam) of the sun which has as its inner controller Narayana. Vijayaraghavan S., if you are reading, can you clarify? > SandhyAvandanam has to be done anyway before sun rise. Dhanur mAsa > special tiru-ArAdhanam is also done before > sun rise. But, this is not "Ijyai" (usual tiru-ArAdhanam) . > A gruhastA has to perform pancha mahA yaj~nAs and also > the Ijyai as usual. dhanur mAsam ArAdhanam is a special > additional ArAdhanam during the Brahma muhurtam. So am I to take it that this ArAdhanam is to be performed immediately after prAtah sandhyA? tirukkacci nambi dAsan, Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1998 Report Share Posted December 2, 1998 Dear Mani and Prapatti Group members: Sri Anand wrote: > Yes. This is a special tiru-ArAdhanam during dhanur mAsam and is > not the usual Ijyai. Can someone, perhaps Anand himself, provide us with a brief description of the krama (procedure) of this special ArAdhanam? Does it also involve all the same Asanas and upacAras? Adiyen's reply: The Dhanurmasa Aradhanam is done before the Prathah Sandhyavandhanam and during the Usha: KAlam (begins roughly 2 hrs. before sunrise). It involves the same Asanams and upachAras as in the regular ArAdhanam. During the mantrAsanam the following line is substituted. "ChApa mAsa gate Bhanu: Usha: kAloyamagata:, SambhruthAschaiva......" etc. > prAtah sandhyAvandanam is not to be done strictly during sun > rise; rather before sun rises and when stars are > still visible. Are you certain of this? I am pretty sure I have read that one must begin the sandhyA before sunrise, but ideally, the japam should be done as the sun rises (and as the sun sets in the evening), because one is supposed to meditate on the adorable effulgence (savitur vareNyam) of the sun which has as its inner controller Narayana. Vijayaraghavan S., if you are reading, can you clarify? Adiyen's reply: What Anand says applies to Argya pradhAnam. Gayatri Japam is done during sunrise. In fact Navalpakkam Swami used to say that the Japam should be done in the "open" so that the sunlight (Bhargha:) falls on our "Moordhna" or the head. In any case the upasthanam is positively done after sunrise. > SandhyAvandanam has to be done anyway before sun rise. Dhanur mAsa > special tiru-ArAdhanam is also done before > sun rise. But, this is not "Ijyai" (usual tiru-ArAdhanam) . > A gruhastA has to perform pancha mahA yaj~nAs and also > the Ijyai as usual. dhanur mAsam ArAdhanam is a special > additional ArAdhanam during the Brahma muhurtam. So am I to take it that this ArAdhanam is to be performed immediately after prAtah sandhyA? Adiyen's reply It is done before Sandhya and completed before sunrise. tirukkacci nambi dAsan, Mani Bhaghavatharguladaya Dasan Vijayaraghavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1998 Report Share Posted December 2, 1998 Sri: Dearest Sri Vijay Srinivasan, What a depth of info and knowledge you possess! I am simply wonderstruck at the analysis and involvement with which you three are discussing, (when I have been performing all of them at akaalams only most of the time and perhaps, wrongly too!). Where else can we get such info? It is the grace of Sriman Narayanan, that I belong to this group. Hats off to all three of you, dear. May Emperumaan shower His blessings to you and your family as He does always. Vijay, I know you are busy. But, please devote some time to teach us little of what you have enriched from our dear Navalpaakkam Swami. Thanks and regards Narayana Narayana Narayana dAsan > > Vijay_Srinivasan [sMTP:Vijay_Srinivasan] > Wednesday, December 02, 1998 9:46 PM > bhakti > Re: tiru aradhana during maargazhi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1998 Report Share Posted December 2, 1998 Madhavakkannan wrote: > I am simply wonderstruck at > the analysis and involvement with which you three are discussing, (when I > have been performing all of them at akaalams only most of the time and > perhaps, wrongly too!). Dear Madhavan, The other two deserve these compliments, but frankly, I do not. Lest people think otherwise, I also do most of my religious duties at less than optimal times. My habit of getting up late in the morning is a constant source of humor for my family. I rarely perform mAdhyAhnikam and my knowledge of brahma yajnam, AupAsana hOmam and other obligatory duties is next to nothing. This is not false modesty -- anyone who spends a day with me would find this to be true. I mention this because I am afraid that the questions I pose make it seem that I am 100% thorough in these daily rituals! At present I am trying to learn how to do the daily ArAdhanai in the simplest of forms. My questions are prompted by a desire to know, at the very least, the proper way as practiced by our predecessors, so I can incorporate what I can into my daily routine. namo nArAyaNAya, Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 1998 Report Share Posted December 3, 1998 Dear Shri Madhava Kannan: I am thankful to you for your kind words. But I am so far from the ideal that I am not sure that I deserve your compliments. The ideals in our ShastrAs are designed to bring out the divinity in us. On the otherhand, these ideals serve to show, how humble we should be, and how thankful we should be to Emperuman and in short to have humility as our best friend. Thanks. Vijayaraghavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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