Reply to Mr.Apraman's question.

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Sri Raamaanuja

tiruvadigale sharanam

 

Respected members,

 

I am happy to know Mr.apraman ,who has

joined the bhakti list. His question is

very relevant and i will try to answer it to the best of my

knowledge.

His question is as follows :-

 

In Ur Reply to Mr.Suresh's Questions

about

Bhagavadgeetha and kainkaryam. You have referred the sentence

"suhridam

attains peace after knowing the friend of all - Lord Krishna".

But

Krishna in Geetha has said(Pardon me I do not remember the

chapter and

that only one in millions aspire for sidhi. Of them only one in

million

attains sidhi and of them only one in million knowns krishna. If

that is

the case, being the greatest sinner how can i ever understand

him. All

our Acharyas and other Purushas who tasted and enjoyed Krishna

are

Avatars of Permul's Various Angams ans so they cannot be

classified just

under jeeva .

What is part of Jeeva then in reaching Krishna ? Since everything

rests

with Krishna(either to bless us with devotion or to throw us in

unending

Samsara) what should we do?

 

The answer is as follows :-

The following gives a list of assurances and the role

to be played by a

jiva in bondage striving for moksha, which are from bhagavad

geeta itself.

 

1. In the third chapter of geetha,krishna says that "even a

worst sinner can

cross the sea of samsara by Knowledge of self "and as

Mr.Kalale has

rightly pointed out that ,even for knowing the self the

jiva requires the

lord's support. But still we can see that an initial

sincere effort in the

direction of knowing the self is required on the part of

the jiva. Also

note that even the worst sinner is guarenteed a good end

and so it is

not only avataara purusaas who alone are guarenteed a

good end .

 

2. In the sixth chapter, Krishna assures arjuna that even a yogi

who slips

in the right performance of yoga will be guarenteed a good

end in

subsequent births. In short he clearly mentions " No one

who does

Good will ever come to a sad end".

 

3. In the seventh chapter krishna says that " Those who take

refuge in me

cross maaya". This implies the erring bounded self has to

take refuge

in krishna.

 

4. In chapters dealing with bhakti yoga , Krishna clearly

mentions to arjuna

that he sees to it that his devotees come to an good end.

 

5. In sixteenth chapter, Krishna says that a life confirming

to do's and dont's

of shaastras on the part of jiva assures him success in

this world and the

next.

 

6. In the eighteenth chapter, krishna says to Arjuna ( Here

Krishna seems to

be a little serious and strict), " Thinking in your mind

that the self is

sub-servient to me, do all works for me and .......,

Iam telling all this

only for your good O Arjuna, Listen to this and do the

same else you will

perish". The above slokhas come just before the 64th

shlokha or charma

shlokha.

 

I remember there are still many places in geetha, where

assurances to jiva and

what exactly he has to do are given. Probably learned members

like Mr.Kalale

can throw more light on the same.

 

Thanking you.

 

With Regards

B.N.Suresh.