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> Well Its actually a short story, Once Naradha asked the same

>question, and so Lord Sri Krishna asked him to go on a tour to >Bhooloka

> >with him, and this is what happend.. at first they went to >a very rich

> >man as beggers and asked him to give them some food. >The rich man....

 

I find Sri Babji's narrative story interesting. I would like to point out

that a similar story (with a different ending) is attributed to Guru Nanak

and his disciple Mardana. (It is often given as an explanation by the Sikhs

of today as the reason for their flock residing in all the continents of the

world). The story goes that when Guru Nanak was travelling with his

disciple, the doors of a particular village were shut to him. He turned

around and blessed the people there saying "May they always have plenty and

be happy". And when he experienced wonderful hospitality at another village,

he cursed them and wished that the ills of the world befall those friendly

folk. When Mardana wanted to know the reason for his behaviour, Guru Nanak

said, "The happy ones will stay there and not pollute the rest of the world

with their inhospitable nature". The good, humble and hospitable villagers

at our second stop, will experience so many difficulties that they will be

forced to leave the village and migrate to newer pastures. And thus their

goodness and virtues will spread all over the world!

>Well if we all realize as per Meera " Dhuku maa sumila saab karaa,

>sukhumaa karaaanaa koii" Joo Dhukumaa kaaraa sukhuu kaaa haaa kaa

>oooiiii" Well iam not so expert in hindi, but i believe the meaning

>ofit is, that everyone thinks of lord at hard times, but if we take the

>pleasure and the pain equally good, and pray to the lord as his

>blessings, the world will certainly be in a different plane."

>well please feel free to comment.

>

 

Would also like to point out that this couplet ('doha' in hindi) is by the

poet Kabir and not Meera. And the lines are:

Dukh Mein Sumiran Sab karai, sukh mein karai na koi;

Jo sukh mein sumiran karai, dukh kahe ko hoi?

 

translated as:

everyone thinks of the Lord during times of sorrow/need, none in times of

happiness/plenty;

Those who pray to the Lord when they are happy too; why would they ever feel

sorrow?

 

Thanks for the patient hearing :-)

 

Bhuvana

 

 

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Hi Welcome abord

Well its a pleasure having you here, and your questions is a very

valid point...

Well once someone had same type of question and i remember very well,

coz they asked this question to one of ahobila mutt ahcaryas, and this

was the answer and i hope it hleps,

Well Its actually a short story, Once Naradha asked the same

question, and so Lord Sri Krishna asked him to go on a tour to Bhooloka

with him, and this is what happend.. at first they went to a very rich

man as beggers and asked him to give them some food. The rich man

simply kicked them out form his home, and said dont you ever get into

my home again. Then Lord Sri Krishna turned around and blessed him with

many more millions in his bank, and walked away.. at that point Naradha

thought that Sri Krishna is Crazy.. and followed by they went to a very

poor Brahmin's hut, were by he is living his lively hood, with the

help of a cow, he milks the cow, and gives it to the villagers and what

little food they give him, he lives upon that.. and one day he gave

milke to everyone and none gave him any food and all he was left was

one cup of milk for his lunch, dinner and also for the day. At that

point lord Sri Krishna and Naradha went and aksed him for some food.

He then even gave that one glass of milk to both of them and said iam

sorry this is all i have and he even gave that too.. Lord Krishna drank

that too, and walked away and blessed him in such a way that his cow

would die in a day or two and give him more sarrows in life..

well at that point, Naradhjeee thought he is really crazy and he

couldnt take it anymore, and asked sri krishna to explain his actions..

Well then sri krishna said that he blessed the rich man with more

riches, so that he would be in more sarrows in this meterialistic

world, but if he realizes that he got all this through the help of lord

then he would purify himself, or else, this cycle of birth and death

for him is so certain. Secondly for the poor brahmin, the only

attachment he had was the cow, and if got rid of that too, he would

then has no one except him and he would surrender completely, and

attain him in no time and give him the utmost fascinating life of

worshiping lord Krishna at sri Vaikuntam, and enjoy every other company

of bhagavatas at vaikunta loka. so inorder for him to achieve that he

blessed him such a way..

Well if we all realize as per Meera " Dhuku maa sumila saab karaa,

sukhumaa karaaanaa koii" Joo Dhukumaa kaaraa sukhuu kaaa haaa kaa

oooiiii" Well iam not so expert in hindi, but i believe the meaning

ofit is, that everyone thinks of lord at hard times, but if we take the

pleasure and the pain equally good, and pray to the lord as his

blessings, the world will certainly be in a different plane."

well please feel free to comment.

 

Servent of my Acharya.

Krishna

201-727-1750

ksri

 

 

 

--- mbabji_x wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bhagavatas,

>

> Let me introduce first. My name is Babji, from New

> Delhi, India here. I am

> 27years old bachelor having very much interest in

> Sri sampradaya and I undergone samasrayana in 1986.

>

> I have some doubts regarding the Karmas. In Gita,

> Sri krishan told that, no

> body is responsible for your karmas either

> it is good or bad. The man can enjoy the benefits

> of his good karmas without

> having any problems. But while enjoying

> his bad karmas, what type of help he can get from

> the god as his devotee?

> Because god is not responsible for his karmas,

> whether he can get any help from the god or not?

>

> I have one particular reason for asking this

> question. After samasrayana, I had

> overcome many problems in my life.

> But since last few years, I unable to success in any

> thing. I could not

> understand my mistake. Generally when ever

> I get time, I will read devotional books like

> Ramanuja noottandadi, Gadya

> trayam, tiruppavai etc. The persons not having

> any devotional interest are living in the society

> with plenty of happiness. So,

> if the god is really cooperative to his

> devotees while enjoying bad karmas, why I haven't

> getting any help?

>

> I am very much thankful, If any bhagavata can

> clarify my doubts.

>

> Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,

>

> Babji

>

>

>

 

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