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Dear brothers and sisters,

Adiyen just read some questions

about why good people suffer while others don't. Nice stories where

told to answer that question best. But adiyen like to share some with

you people which adiyen underwent when he asked the same question to his

Gurudev and his solutions to overcome the problem.

Adiyen just narrated his problems to Gurudev, then Gurudev said the

following

" There once was a mother who had two sons, one was good and other was

bad. Mother always scolded and beat the good son whenever he did

something wrong (at once). But she never even bothered to scold the bad

son when he did a blunder. One day the good son asked his 'Mother don't

you love . You beat me for small mistakes but you give full freedom to

my brother'. Mother said 'No, my son you got me wrong. I care for you. I

don't want you to make even a small mistake but i am tried with your

brother that i have washed my hands on him. It is not freedom.If you

have a problem i will be there to do it for you but he has to solve

things himself.'( this is just a story.Mother's don't hate their child

for sure in reality). If you are not convinced by this story stand by my

side and i will clear you in the end of the day". Adiyen stood by his

side. Lot of devotee came and narrated their problems. To some he gave

solutions , while others got a big smile. At the end of the day adiyen

started walking out of the room when Gurudev called back and said " I

did not answer you? Did i?" . "But you have already answered them all "

replied adiyen.Lot of people have lots of problems but we never no them

all.We know only our own problems. He then gave adiyen some solutions.

 

1. Asked adiyen to make a survey . Adiyen has to asks two questions to

people.

Definition of suffering and happiness to each one of them he met.

He gave a technique to arrive at an answer at the end. Gurudev said

" As you know that for a question there can be only one answer but there

may be many methods to solve them. If you get only one answer then you

know sufferings exits but if you get more than one answer then you know

a word 'suffer' doesn't exits". To my surprise Adiyen found out that

people had different versions for sufferings and happiness..For some

more money means more happiness and to some more money means more

sufferings. So happy moments of some becomes unhappy moments for others.

Hence it all depends on how you take it. Try not to differentiate

things. Be like Lord Rama as told by Kambar "Showing his smiling face

to both good and bad and treating them in the same manner".

 

2. Sufferings or happiness comes to you only if you are caught by

Goddess Maya. How to get rid of Maya. Only way is to find the real or

Sat. What is real in this world. Instead of trying to think what

mistakes we have done it's better to think what is real in this world.

How to find that. Gurudev gave me a secret to find out that.

"The objects or material that change with time are Maya or delusion

and those not affected by time are real" .If you follow this you may

find that God alone is real. Your body is not real ( since it grows in

size), money is not real, health, wealth, relationship, designation all

are not real. You forget your loved ones after a course of time. So this

is what Lord Krishna named as G~na Yoga in Gita. Do you know last but

not the least time by itself is Maya since it changes. So never say "

My time is bad". You may say that only if you are caught by Goddess

Maya. All this never happen in a day. It takes a lot of time and mind.

 

3. Reading divine books and Divine Mantras are good only if you say them

from your heart knowing the meaning of it. Chanting the Mantra with

worries in the mind only has adverse effect. So simple and best way to

pray is through Meditation. It is not something difficult. It just an

exercise to your mind to relax it a bit as you do it to your body. At

first it only relaxes your mind or brain by it can do miracles if used

properly. Scientist have agreed that Meditating for a few minutes equals

hours of sleep. Do you feel you sufferings when you sleep deeply?. As

meditation progress a small light shines in between the two eye brows

called the Cosmic center or the third eye. At this point of time you

feel only your mind and the God himself nothing else .You don't feel the

body or the surrounding environment. You will feel the Divine Joy or the

Bliss. This joy can never be expressed. This remains even after you come

out of the trance for a few minutes. This Joy alone is real . Nothing

can be compared to it. All joy you had during your entire life time

cannot equal this joy. As you go deep in meditation for hours this small

light grows in size and engulfs you. At this point you become Lord Rama

himself. You won't differentiate between good and bad . You will have

the same smiling face to both of them and treat them equally.

 

This is what Gurudev said to adiyen. It's all said easy but difficult

to practice but if you do Joy is ever yours.

 

Jai Guru Deva.

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Sri Satyam Wrote,,

>

>3. Reading divine books and Divine Mantras are good only if you say them

>from your heart knowing the meaning of it. Chanting the Mantra with

>worries in the mind only has adverse effect. So simple and best way to

>pray is through Meditation. It is not something difficult.

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

I am replying to the above post after a long time.

 

The above post of Mr.Satyam was to a question of why men suffer?

He has touched upon the topic of chanting of mantras.

 

Atleast in our sampradayam, our poorvacharyas have told us how one should

chant Holy Thirumantram.

 

If we refer to MooMukshapadi Of SriPillai Lokacharyar, in the

Thirumantraprakaranam in the verse4 , he says that

 

"As this thriumantram bestows benefits for the seekeer, we should evince

interest first, then We should have premai on the LOrd who is the subject of

this Mantram, ie, SriMan NArayanan,

and of course, while chanting, you should also remember the Acharyan with

gratitude who has taught us this Thirumantram "

 

i request the members to read the originol verse. it is simply great.

not just this verse, whole work of moomukshapadi is excellent .

 

i am really fascinated by the meanings and mind conditionings our acharyas

have done to us. MooMukshapadi, especially is a work which i ever think of

whenever i have personal problem.

 

While our Rishis and Alwars gave us enough bakthi, it is only our acharyas

who worked to intrepret it right and give us a sort of mind conditioning for

happiness in the current world and moksham in Our God's Abode.

 

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

 

K.M.Narayanan

Hyderabad.

 

 

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