Guest guest Posted July 30, 1999 Report Share Posted July 30, 1999 Dear members, I have been following with very keen interest your discussions on "visEsha-bhagavath-kainkaryam Vs. nitya-kainkaryam" like "sandhyAvandanam". Just a few observations of mine as I have learnt it from my elders: On such occasions when the two come into conflict with each other it is advisable to perform "bhagavath-kainkaryam" first before proceeding to perform "nitya-kainkaryam" with the necessary "prAyaschitta". The duty to perform "visEsha-kainkaryam" takes precedence over "nitya-karma" only in the order of sequence and not in the order of importance. It is not an "either/or" situation here. It is a "before/after" situation and the "sAstrA" relating to "sAmanya/visEsha dharma" very clearly enunciates this principle. The 'sAstrA' does not place premium on one at the cost of discounting the other. Mani wrote that "sandhyAvandanam" performed without the mental attitude of offering it as "kainkaryam" to the Lord becomes nothing but "useless ritual". I can appreciate the true spirit behind Mani's statement but I must caution other members on the list against taking it literally, loosely or laterally. "sandhyAvandanam" is no doubt a "ritual"… a daily obligatory sacrament. But its paramount importance in the Vedic religion cannot be over-emphasized because it contains the "gAyatri-mahA-mantra" ---- the mother of all vedic practices, precept and thought. Neither the "mantrA" nor the ritual itself can ever be trivialized since the Lord Himself in the Bhagavath Gita (CH.X.35) declared "…gAyatree chhandasAm-aham!"… "Amongst the Vedic hymns I am, verily, the "gAyatri" metre itself!". The Vedas say that the Supreme One manifests Himself in many ways… as "para", "vyUha", "vibhava", "antaryAmin" and "archA". The same Veda also says in another place that the Supreme One manifests Himself also as "yagnyam"…: yagnyam" is Vishnu and Vishnu, verily, is "yagnyam"" the Veda clearly declares. So it is clear that the Almighty chooses to manifest in the world in the form of "yagnyam" or "ritual" also. Now, if we accept the Vedic "pramANa" above, then "yagnya-kAryam" like "nitya-karmA-s" too should be accepted by us as being the very presence of the Almighty. There is no doubt then that the very act of "sandhyAvandanam", in itself, constitutes the Lord's Living Presence…. In other words the deed itself is Vishnu, according to the Vedas. That being the case, the question of performing "sandhyAvandanam" without the so-called "proper attunement of one's mind towards the Almighty"… that question simply does not arise at all. "gAyatri" is "chandasAm-mAtA"… she is our dear Mother. How can one not be possessed of the "proper attitude" to one's own mother? Isn't a mother-child relationship a matter of natural truth? Even if one expects nothing from one's mother, can one be indifferent to her presence or her needs? Even if one renders great service to society and to one's brethren, can that suffice if one neglects one's mother on the pretext that "kainkaryam" to society is greater than "kainkaryam" to one's mother? Even if one does not perform "sandhyAvandanam" perfectly, even if we do not have the right mental state of obeisance to the Lord while undertaking the ritual, it is still obligatory for us to perform the "nitya-karma". The "sandhyAvandanam" ritual does not become "useless ritual" simply because its performer goes through it mechanically. Whether done mechanically or in full earnestness, as long as it done with a modicum of reverence, the ritual is well done and 'ipso facto' becomes 'bhagavath-kainkaryam". Even if one is in the habit of paying one's due respect to one's mother in a mechanical and indifferent manner, is it not better than not paying any attention to her at all? Of course it is! The mother's heart of unqualified kindness will understand everything and she will still rest content and satisfied that her son at least shows her token, if not, real affection. The Vedic "achAryA-s" have again and again repeated it… and it will bear repetition a million times…: without performing "sandhyAvandanam" there is no use performing even "vAjapEya-maha-yagnyam" or going off on a grand tour of the 108 "divya-dEsam-s". Doing so would be like earning the reputation of being a grand philanthropist in the eyes of the world and keeping one's mother at home starving and ill-dressed! So in these discussions of "sandhyAvandanam" and "bhagavath-kainkaryam" please do not be carried away by the devotional lines of a "pAsuram" divorced from the real context in which it was sung. Yes, the lines of the AzhwArs are, of course, beautiful and very evocative. But they are the outpourings of liberated mystic souls. We are not AzhwArs…. We must learn to first temper devotion with duty before we venture to transcend duty in favour of devotion. adiyEn dAsAnu-dAsan, Sudarshan ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 1999 Report Share Posted August 2, 1999 Sri Sudarshan wrote: > The "sandhyAvandanam" ritual does not become "useless ritual" simply because > its performer goes through it mechanically. [...] > So in these discussions of "sandhyAvandanam" and "bhagavath-kainkaryam" > please do not be carried away by the devotional lines of a "pAsuram" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > divorced from the real context in which it was sung. Yes, the lines of the > AzhwArs are, of course, beautiful and very evocative. But they are the > outpourings of liberated mystic souls. Sri Sudarshan: What is your basis for dismissing the clear message of both the Alvar and two great pUrvAchAryas? Certainly the Alvars were great mystic souls, but this in no way gives us an excuse to disregard their advice, especially when it is patently clear that they are counselling us on behavior. In this particular case, there is no other alternative but to read the Alvar paasuram as advice to people of the world. Now, no one is suggesting that people should give up sandhyAvandanam, least of all the Alvar. But I cannot see any reason to disagree with Alvar and Swami PV Pillai when they declare that sandhyAvandanam must done with bhakti and with reflection on the kalyANa-guNas of PerumaaL. It seems your position is that it is ok to do sandhyAvandanam without thinking of PerumaaL. I respectfully request pramANa-s from acharyas' writings in the Sri Vaishnava sampradAya. In the meantime, I will take Swami Periyavaaccaan Pillai's explanation over yours. Thank you, Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 1999 Report Share Posted August 3, 1999 Dear Sri Sudarshan: The flair with which you put forth your viewpoints is indeed commendable, nay, invigorating. Though, sometimes, and on this instance, I have some difficulty with a few of your interpretations. > > Mani wrote that "sandhyAvandanam" performed without the mental attitude of > offering it as "kainkaryam" to the Lord becomes nothing but "useless > ritual". > > I can appreciate the true spirit behind Mani's statement but I must caution > other members on the list against taking it literally, loosely or laterally. Our upanishadic lore and Acharya vyAkhyAnams are replete with the paramount importance attributed to the state of mind ("mental attitude"). In fact, all of bhagavad geetha (BG) is a testament to the need for the state of mind, that mental attitude devoid of extraneous considerations when performing one's duty. The charama slokam, the crown jewel in BG akin to the mEmboruL pasuram in tirumAlai, provides the basis for the ultimate upAyam, the lord himself, on the basis of simply a state of mind (sharaNAgathi). In fact, the charama slOkam allows you the luxury of relinquishing all dharmas and attendant karmas and pursue Him as the ultimate dharma. > > Even if one does not perform "sandhyAvandanam" perfectly, even if we do not > have the right mental state of obeisance to the Lord while undertaking the > ritual, it is still obligatory for us to perform the "nitya-karma". The > "sandhyAvandanam" ritual does not become "useless ritual" simply because its > performer goes through it mechanically. Whether done mechanically or in full > earnestness, as long as it done with a modicum of reverence, the ritual is > well done and 'ipso facto' becomes 'bhagavath-kainkaryam". The difficulty in descriptions that you provide above is with some of the qualitative nature of the 'qualifications' above. Will some thing done 'mechanically' produce the same results as dhyAna performed in "full earnestness"? Is not dhyAna, the very essence of sandhya vandanam, a contradiction in terms when utilized in association with mechanical orientation spiced with tangential thought? Is it all one needs, a modicum of reverence, to obtain equivalence with the ultimate reward? Or is this a remnant of justification for mediocrity in practice that stems from a refusal to indulge in requisite anushTanic purity in thought, given our inability to wallow out of samsaric miasma that we create for ourselves? Is this another interpretation that is all too common, given our unwillingness to let go of the mechanistic bondage? Is this another step in the path of the modernistic interpretation of "acharyas" (along the lines of may be Sri ART who was referenced on bhakti recently) to usher sharaNAgathi and sacred vEdic, essentially mental processes, practices into the new millenium? I raise these points not to simply question your interpretation per se, but to reflect on a growing trend, esp. for those of us living in the US, where the need for purity of thought has been displaced by justification of mechanical expediency. Not another month passes by without an upanayanam for a child raised in the opulence of the west is held with great fanfare. These occasions, marked by great fanfare and significant paucity of thought towards devotion, also provide a stark testimony to the current day accent on the performance of the very sacred practices for the sake of external aggrandizement it may bring. And when something is done mechanically, divorced of bhakthi/dhyana/sense of kainkaryam, it simply becomes a mockery upon itself. No wonder very few of these children raised here will ever perform sandhya vandanam (in thought or deed), given the purfunctory bases that form the foundation of these initiations. And it is the purfonctory notion of practices that our Azhwaars/ Achaaryas have come out stridently against. When thonDaraDippoDiyAzhwaar says mEmboruL pOgaviTTU : give up on external, impermanent, physical attribute-laden substance (achit) meymaiyai miga uNarndu: comprehend the supreme nature of the inner self, your jeevatma, the soul that is bonded permanently not to materialism but to paramatma, the ultimate care-giver aam parisu arindhukonDu: comprehend the supreme nature of your reward, His kainkaryam, contemplation at His lotus feet they are not directed towards other 'liberated' souls. They are meant for all of us incorporate in our corporeal duties, so that we too can benefit from the joy of the vision that Azhwaar has been given. > > The Vedic "achAryA-s" have again and again repeated ita and it will bear > repetition a million timesa: without performing "sandhyAvandanam" there is > no use performing even "vAjapEya-maha-yagnyam" or going off on a grand tour > of the 108 "divya-dEsam-s". Doing so would be like earning the reputation of > being a grand philanthropist in the eyes of the world and keeping one's > mother at home starving and ill-dressed! So in these discussions of "sandhyAvandanam" and "bhagavath-kainkaryam" > please do not be carried away by the devotional lines of a "pAsuram" > divorced from the real context in which it was sung. Yes, the lines of the > AzhwArs are, of course, beautiful and very evocative. But they are the > outpourings of liberated mystic souls. We are not AzhwArsa. We must learn > to first temper devotion with duty before we venture to transcend duty in > favour of devotion. > To separate dhyAna, bhakthi and ultimately a sense of bhagavath kainkaryam from the physical activities of nitya karmAs is like separating the soul from the physical body. Without the soul, the physical body is just a largesse of flesh that is deserving of the attention of vultures looking for rotten carcasses. It is the soul that gives the human being the exalted platform of relevance in leela vibhuthi. Likewise, nitya karmas devoid of the mental state or attitude of dhyAna have no significance in the real scheme of things. Duty and devotion are not mutually exclusive. Rather, recognition of their symbiotic, integrated nature in our practices will allow us to elevate ourselves to mental states closer to that of attaning the ultimate anubhavam. To even think that devotion requires relinquishment of duty ("venture to transcend duty in favour of devotion" in your words) may take us down a path where we will neither be performing our duties nor have the benefit of being devoted to the lord. And yes, Azhwaar/Acharya outpourings are not meant for their own ilk, they are directed towards us, for our specific benefit, as a consequence of divine insight that those exalted souls were given, a vision that we may never hope to get near if we are NOT willing to even consider that they are meant for us. Azhwaar EmberumAnAr Jeeyar thiruvaDigaLE sharaNam sridhar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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