sandhyAvandanam and Sei.Shridhar Srinivasan

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Sri.Sridhar Srinivasan,

 

Obviously, my response seems to have stirred up your own adrenalin! But is

is certainly very interesting and enjoyable to read your extremely spirited,

ebullient rejoinder!

 

SrimAn Sridhar, you can drain way all the "soup" from our discussions but

the "corn" however will remain. The bottom-line is that devoted "sOmbhAr-s"

too have to unfailingly perform "nitya-karmA" right through to the end....

it is their duty.

 

If you are not able to agree with that fundamental position, then we might

as well agree to disagree ... and return to our own respective "soups".

 

adiyEn dAsan,

Sudarshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Srimathe Narayanaya Namaha

 

Dear Sri Sudarsan,

 

AdiyEn would agree with the views of Sri Sridhar in that, for the

exalted souls (sOmbhars), though the Nitya karmAs have to be

performed, failing to do so will not incurr any sin on them. However

the point to be noted here is what Sri Sridhar has emphasized, that

is we should also be such exalted souls as the AzhwArs (certainly a

difficult one in these days) to renounce our Nitya karmAs. However

the pAsuram "mEmporuL pOgavittu...." very clearly states this view. I

would request our members like Sri Mani , Sri Varadhan and Sri

Sridhar to give us a clearly translation of Sri Periya Vachhan

Pillai's vyAkhyAnam for this pAsuram.

 

However while agreeing to your views that the Nitya karmas are very

much essential for even the exaltes souls please note that there

cannot be a dispute to it, but the important point and fact to be

noted is that these karmas should not be performed as an upAyam for

attaining mOksha. Since for us Sriman Narayanan is the only upAyam

and the upEyam too. "Karmamum nAnE, palnum nAnE...." these words by

our Sri Krishna paramAthmA (I am not sure where I heard this from, of

course certainly from somewhere in Gita) very clearly says this.

 

Hence if we are only doing the Nitya - KarmAs just for the sake of

doing and not as an upAyam for the mOksha, it is as well not wrong if

we can stay as sOmbhars as said by our dearest Thondaradippodi

AzhwAr.

 

In this context there was one great bhAgavathA ( I don't remember his

name) who relinquished all his duties and was only thinking of

PerumAL and was an exalted soul. He was literally a sOmbhar by our

T.P AzhwAr's definition. He would do nothing. However one day when he

went to the temple, he found that there were lots of dry leaves that

had fallen from the trees and decided to clean the temple and was

doing it. Then one of the local folks who came to temple asked him

"Swami, you said you have relinquished everything and will not do

any karmA and etc., but now I am seeing you doing this cleaning work.

What does this mean and what is the difference". For which this great

bhAgavathA answered " Kuppai irundhadhukkum , illAdhadhukkum enna

vidhyAsamO athE vidyAsam thAn idukku", meaning the difference is

nothing but the same as between a place with litter and without

litter. The point to note here is, the great bhAgavathA was never

thinking that he is doing the karma (kartrutvam), it is his job to

clean the temple i.e the work is his (karmam), and the fruit for

doing so is mOksham (phalam).

 

The important point in our Sri VaishNava philosophy is the Karma ,

kartrutva, phala tyAgam. If only we sacrifice these three we can

become such exalted souls, by virtue of which we shall all remain

sOmbhars and attain His Thiruvadi. It is only these three sacrifices

that our Sri Krishna says in " Sarva dharmAn parityajya .." Here

there dharmA refers to the Karmam, Kartrutvam and Palam, and

Parityajya is doing the sacrifice.

 

Hence adiyEn would say that the views given by Sri Sridhar is most

appropriate, taking into consideration the above points also.

 

AzhwAr emberumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam

 

adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan,

 

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

Regards

 

T.V.Venkatesh

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