sandhyAvandanam and Sri.Shridhar Srinivasan

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Dear BhagawatAs,

 

--- Venkatesh.T.V wrote:

> The important point in our Sri VaishNava philosophy

> is the Karma , kartrutva, phala tyAgam. If only

> we sacrifice these three we can become such

> exalted souls, by virtue of which we shall all

> remain sOmbhars and attain His Thiruvadi. It is

> only these three sacrifices that our Sri Krishna

> says in " Sarva dharmAn parityajya .." Here

> there dharmA refers to the Karmam, Kartrutvam and

> Palam, and Parityajya is doing the sacrifice.

 

I guess this issue has been debated by many of our esteemed members.

Despite being on the lowest rung of the ladder of knowledge, I could

not resist sharing a view or two of mine however unsophisticated they

are.

 

I do not think that the "sarva-dharmAn-parityajya" statement refers to

giving up of all karmas including nitya karmas. The "parityajya"

refers NOT to a vidhi (injunction) but rather an anuvaada (after-fact).

If the "parityajya" is taken as an injunction, then we have

essentially performed in one shot a tilAnjali - yeLLu taNNi - sacrifice

not only to all that Krishna says about karma-jnAna-bhakti yogas but

also to all vedic and upanishadic injunctions ... if you know what I

mean. So, let us preserve the true meaning of the statement without

contradicting what RAmAnuja has been saying as Krishna's tiru-uLLam for

the past 18 chapters. Let us not turn the weapon we used to annihilate

advaita onto ourselves. If there is any injunction in that statement

it is the word "vraja" as in "mAm ekam saraNam vraja."

 

The "sarva-dharma" that is referred there is to bhakti-yoga (and its

angas), not to nitya karmas. Please view the statement in the context

it appears. It appears in the context of bhakti-yoga and in the

context of Arjuna's great anguish when he realizes that bhakti-yoga is

an extremely arduous and drawn-out path to paramAtma sAkSAtkAra. So,

Krishna's tiru-uLLam (according to our pUrvAchAryas) is this: "Having

relinquished bhakti yoga as a sAdhyOpAya, resort to me alone ... (that

is, perform bhara samarpaNam). I, the universal siddhOpAya, will stand

in place of bhakti yOga and rid you of all your sins."

 

Note that a bhakti yOgi performs two kinds of tyAgas.

1. phala tyAga - relinquishing the fruits of action.

2. svaroopa tyAga - relinquishing the notion that Atma is his. He

however will take it upon himself to perform bhakti yOga as a

sAdhyOpAya and hence does not perform bhara samarpaNam. So, what

Krishna is saying that if bhakti yOga is undoable, relinquish the

bhAram of bhakti yOga. There is no pramANa there (or anywhere else)

that includes the tyAga of nitya karmas into Krishna's statement.

 

To summarize, whatever the original context of this thread, this is the

bottom line: Krishna paramAtma does not advocate relinquishing nitya

karmas. Besides, why else would they be called nitya karmAs in the

first place? If our pUrvAcAryas and ALvArs have made statements that

might be interpreted to the effect that nitya karmas can be

relinquished, then we must examine and re-examine their context before

making any determination of what they (our AcAryas) intented.

 

-- muraLi kaDAmbi

 

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Srimathe Narayanaya Namaha

 

Dear Sri Murali,

 

AdiyEn would like to clarify your doubts on my statement. If you go

thro' my earlier lines, please note that adiyEn had clearly written

that it is the thoughts that should be sacrificed.

 

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The point to note here is, the great bhAgavathA was never

thinking that he is doing the karma (kartrutvam), it is his job to

clean the temple i.e the work is his (karmam), and the fruit for doing

so is mOksham (phalam).

<End Quote>

 

Again to consolidate, I am no authority to dispute anything that our

Swami EmberumAnAr says. I agree that Krishna never said to renounce

the Nitya Karmas, but the thougts takes more importance, in that, we

should NOT THINK that a karma is being done by us, we should NOT

THINK we are responsible for that karma and we should NOT THINK that

the phalam for that karma is ours. All this because we know that

Sriman Narayanan is THE ONLY SiddhOpAyam and sAdhyOpAyam

Hence we need not renounce our Nitya KarmAs.

 

But the case here regarding the exalted souls is different. AdiyEn

shall present the views after consulting some scholars near my

residence with real pramANAs.

 

AzhwAr EmberumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam

 

AdiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan

 

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

Regards

 

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