Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Jai Sreemannarayana, >> It is very amply clear that Prapatti performed >> for moksham has five angAs and three angIs, alongwith the >> sAtvIka tyAga (counted as the sixth angA for those >> Prapattis which are performed with the aim of attaining >> moksham). >> So far, the discussion was regarding the exact nature >> of Prapatti. Lets consider that, the Indonesian Beggar >> referred to by SrI Mani is a SrI Vaishnava, knows about >> SrIman nArAyaNa etc. adiyEn will write later as to what >> would be the case when that Indonesian Beggar has "his >> own conception of God" (which infact was the original >> question/issue raised by SrI SEshAdri, if adiyEn's memory >> is right). Based on the pramAnams : Can't recollect the slokam exactly but it goes like this. Sanketyam Parihasyamcha Sobam Helanamevava... Vaikunta Nama Grahanam Asesha Agha Aram Vidhuhu Basically even while addressing a person using his NAME, or if you are mocking a person using a NAME, or if you are praising a person using his NAME, if that NAME is of our Dear Vaikuntanadha he will receive moksham. A story from Bhagavatam....( a slokam from Krishna Satakam in Telugu called AjaMeela Upakhynam ) Name a bad quality and he would make that bad quality look bad. That was his level of crookedness of a person called Ajameela. He was such a nasty person Yama Kinkaras waited for him so that he can be carried to Narakam. Because of his qualities he was reserved a seat in Narakam not once but several times. He had a son called Narayana and right before his last breath he called his son using his NAME "Narayana". That's it. Yama Kinkaras couldn't even touch him. His doubly reserved round trip seat in Narakam was released and was offered a free one-way ticket to His abode. Now coming back to the Indonesian Beggar, he could have fallen in a drain, he could have fallen in a well. That beggar could have fallen in any other place. But of all places in the world he fell in front of Bhagavat Ramanuja. Hold on guys, just imagine a kid. Say a three year old. He comes running, He is so engrossed in his own world playing games and stuff, he doesn't care about his own mother. He keeps playing gets hurt so badly and tries to run around because of unbearable pain. He doesn't know it is pain. But that pain is killing him. The intensity of pain is so bad he starts losing vision, he doesn't see his own mother standing a few feet away. He falls in front of his own mother bleeding profusely. He is dieing.................... Now tell me what the mother will do? Do you think she will say my three year old has done so much Papam and he is not a Prapanna for me to even touch him. Let him go to Naraka. Apacharam! Apacharam!! Apacharam!!!. She will immediately take the child in her lap and try to do what ever she can. Here it is Ramanuja, Bhagavat Ramanuja, Acharya Ramanuja. To even think that the person will not get Moksham is something we can't imagine and runs tears down our eyes~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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