Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 Dear Bhaktas, I would like to post a question for the Bhagavatas of this group, which has been a concern for me for quite sometime. Consider a person so much in love with the Srivaishnava sampradayam and day-in and day-out mingling with the Srivaishnavas discussing about the Lord and immersing in his bhakthi. He comes out of this environment and lands up in a place where he gets no company of Srivaishnavas or people who can understand the value of the devotion or Srivaishnavism. How should a person like this maintain his Srivaishnavite thoughts in the midst of people who talk of other things? He cannot express anything but has to listen to the people around him. Only option he has, is to cry in front of the Lord to take complete control of his thoughts and give him the strength. I would like to know what kind of thoughts he should have and the means to maintain them. I apologize if this aubject falls outside the scope of this discussion group. Thanks, Sheshadri ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 Dear Sheshadri Ranganathan, The situation you are facing is nothing new. It happens to many srivaishnavas. You should mingle with people and try to talk to them what they are talking about. You may not be able to express your ideas publicly since they may not agree with the view of others. Try to make time for yourself to learn and read about our scriptures. Reading about scriptures, particularly upanisads (for me) gives me lot of strength to face life and problems of isolation in general. It is good to somehow go to temples often. If you find a vaishnava temple it is fine. If you find a Harekrishna temple that is also fine since atleast Lord Krishna is common to us. You can also try to meet srivaishnavas here and there to have a comfortable atmosphere. YOu should definitely keep Bhagavadgita handy and read a chapter a day. That will keep all sorrows away. Sheshadri Ranganathan [sMTP:sheshadri_ranganathan] Tuesday, December 07, 1999 4:43 PM bhakti Srivaishnavism in isolation. Dear Bhaktas, [Krishna Kalale] stuff deleted Thanks, Sheshadri ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 --- Sheshadri Ranganathan <sheshadri_ranganathan wrote: > Dear Bhaktas, Consider a> person so much in love > with the Srivaishnava sampradayam and day-in and> day-out mingling with the > Srivaishnavas discussing about the Lord and> immersing in his bhakthi. He > comes out of this environment and lands up in a> place where he gets no > company of Srivaishnavas or people who can > understand the value of the > devotion or Srivaishnavism. How should a person like > this maintain his > Srivaishnavite thoughts in the midst of people who> talk of other things? > Sheshadri adiyen is really glad to see young members like Sri.Sheshadri and others asking sharp, realistic and interesting questions. Sri.Sheshadri's is very good question. To tenaciously practice the tenets of SriVaishnavism one needs strong and constant inter-action with other like-minded SriVaishnavas. Also one needs SriVaishnava role-models or 'walking examples' to be around us all the time. Our faith in Srisampradayam flowers when it is tended to and cultivated in an environment where satsangham with other 'bhagavatas' is easily available or accessed. In an environment barren of day-to-day Vaishnavaite symbols, practices and institutions the faith can most likely begin to wither. To those who leave the shores of India to foreign lands this predicament is particularly common. Ancient seers and 'achAryA-s' never left the shores of Bharatam for fear that they may not be able, even if for only a day, to maintain "nitya-agnihOtram" -- to keep the daily sacrificial fires lighted. In these modern days, our young boys and girls travel to far-off lands and live there to earn their livelihoods. Some of them do it out of pure personal choice. Some do it out of force of personal circumstances. In either case they find themselves in alien environments amongst alien peoples and alien faiths. The feel disorientated and rootless. Fortunately, in countries like USA or as in some countries of the Gulf, there are sizable populations of SriVaishnavas and hence some kind of 'sampradAyic' environment is created by them amidst their community. They build surrogate 'Tirupatis' and 'SriRangams' in foreign lands and seek to recreate the SriVaishnava ambience even in the middle of Beverly Hills, Madison Square, Hyde Park or a Dubai shopping mall. But a surrogate is always a surrogate and to the true Vaishnava faithful it may not always fulfil a yearning for the original. adiyen has also acutely experienced the problem of "isolation" that Sri.Sheshadri has openly shared with the group. adiyen feels that the problem can be alleviated to some extent as follows: (1) There is the modern appliance of cassette-players and recorders. Very useful. You can record your favourite shlokas, upanyasams, kalapshepams, vedic and prabhandic recitations. With a wonderful collections built over the years you can instantly recreate by the touch of a button Vaishnavite experiences in your mind. (2) There is the inter-net and there are chat-groups like the Bhakti-group, malolan-net etc. galore in the cyber landscape. Choose one in which you think you will be most comfortable. You will instantly have the satsangham of like-minded and like-speaking bhagavatas. (3) There are plenty of publications these days from Ahobila mutt, TTD, Krishna-consciousness, etc. You can for them and stay abreast of what is happening in the religious world. Magazines like "nrsimha-priya" can also take you out of your isolation. (4) Try and see a Srivaishnava trait in everyone around you. Your friend may not be wearing "urdhva-pundhra". He may not have had "samAshrayanam". He may not even know what "prappatti" is or what "dvaya-mantram" is. But he may be a good humble individual. He may be truthful and sensitive. He may have a charitable disposition. He may be soft-spoken and gentle nature. he may love fine things in life like music poetry etc. Is he not also a Vaishnavan? Can you not be friends with him? Can he not help you overcome your "isolation"? dAsan, Sampathkumaran Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Shopping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 1999 Report Share Posted December 10, 1999 Dear bhagavatha, Your question is very much relevant for our times as majority of us land up most of the times in an atmosphere which is anything but spiritual. Now the following can be adopted so that spiritual mood is in us,when we can't get the same from outside environment:- 1. Remember that Lord is everywhere as antaryamin and the term Isolation immediatley looses its meaning. 2. Spiritual life or Philosophical life is a "Way of life" and not" mere speculation or group discussions" even though the later are included as elements of Spiritual life. As Lord Krishna says in the bhagavad gita,that wherever we are,whatever we do(ofcourse according to our understanding of Dharma),we must offer all at his holy feet.This way of life converts all our actions through mind,body and speech as a service to him.In short our secular life is spiritualised. 3. We all know that "Good Books are the Best friends of a man". Now our Good books are :- 1. Bhagavad Gita. 2. Srimad Bhagavatham. 3. Upanishads. 4. Brahma-sutras and works of alwars. 5. Last but not the least, all the books dealing with the glory of our lord. 4. Carry photos of the Archaswarupa of our lord and whenever we have free time,let us see the photo and be blessed.If any of us can remember the form of our lord in our mind,then it is still more better.If you have computer save some of our lords' photos as jpgs etc and view them whenever you want. 5. Finally if we have an access to internet,Join the bhakti list and we can directly interact with people close to our mind and heart. 6. Visit Temples of our lord whenever we can and feel blessed. 7. I think whoever reads this message can surely come out with other methods to remember our lord and continue to be in spiritual mood. Sri krishnaarpanamasthu Suresh B.N. Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Shopping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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