Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 Dear Bhagavatas Namo Narayana: I am writing in response to the recent flurry of official rebukes directed at Sri. Sampath Kumar. I have the following Question for the issuers of these rebukes: 1. Hvae any of you posted material that is speculative in nature? I would advice each of you to search the archives long and hard before answering this question (there are postings in the archives authored by the rebuke issuers questioning the authenticity of episodes in puranas and ithihasas and the relevance of varnAshrama dharma.) Truth is immutable. One may feel the need to defend truth; however, in defending truth one should focus rebuttals on the ideas opposed to truth and not on the individuals expressing these ideas. ramanuja dasan, venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 --- sampath kumar <sampathkumar_2000 wrote: > Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:21:35 -0800 (PST) > sampath kumar <sampathkumar_2000 > Re: Official rebukes directed at Sri. > Sampath Kumar > Venkat Nagarajan <NAGARAVE > > --- Venkat Nagarajan <NAGARAVE wrote: > > Dear Bhagavatas > > Namo Narayana: > > > > I am writing in response to the recent flurry of > > official rebukes > > directed at Sri. Sampath Kumar. > > venkat > > Dear Sri.Venkat, > I saw only a few "rebukes" on the list but you talk > of > a "flurry"?! > > Can you please mail me copies of those please, if > you > don't mind. > Thank you and regards, > Sampathkumaran > > > > Talk to your friends online with Messenger. > http://im. > Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Dear Bhagavatas I am sorry that the reply of Sri Sampathkumar in response to an innocuous query of a bhagavata (which I forwarded to him) on the apparent redundancy of the word "methenra" followed by "pancha sayanathin", had created some resentment. Even the Vyakhyana Chakravarthi would not have ventured to stifle further interpretations by researchers of posterity, as if, his was the last say in the matter. In fact, numerous Achrayas and research scholars after the times of PV Pillai have added and are continuing to add to the richness of interpretations almost perennially. This fact does not trivialize or detract from the eminence of PV Pillai's thoughtful inputs. I think that it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like this: " I hate your views but I will fight the whole world to see that your views are heard" Let us develop this tolerance in listening to what others have to say. I am one of those who appreciates a different view point that is ORIGINAL*so long as it is NOT REPUGNANT to the established Vyakhyanams of Poorva and Prakritam Acharyas*. This latter part is important. And, Sri Sampathkumar's explanations do just this and I would like to thank him for this. Dear Sri Sampthkumar, Please carry on, but remember the rider mentioned above. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 --- Ramanbil wrote: > Dear Bhagavatas > Dear Sri Sampthkumar, Please carry on, but remember> the rider mentioned above. > Dasoham > Anbil Ramaswamy > Dear and respected Sriman. Anbil Ramaswamy, Adiyen must first express his apologies to all concerned for the agitation that seems to have been caused amongst "bhAgavatA-s". Adiyen is also sorry that revered Sri.Anbil swamy has had to suffer some embarrassment. Adiyen's actions may be called to question but never Sriman Anbil's who had merely shared a random thought privately with adiyen. He and I both indulge in cyber-conversations occasionally. Adiyen's indiscretions are adiyen's alone and no part of them should ever be even slightly deflected towards either the person or the high stature of blameless Sriman Anbil. As far as adiyen's views on tiruppAvai are concerned let me please clarify: (1) adiyen has not and never ever even once written anything that is even remotely disrespectful of the great "purvAchAryA-s" like Sri.PVPillai or anyone else. Adiyen's concience is clear on this and if adiyen is untruthful about this, let our "perumAl" sri tiruvengadamudaiyAn Himself take adiyen to task for this; (2) adiyen has not written anything disrespectful of any member on the bhakti-list; adiyen perhaps may have reacted a shade sharply to some comments which adiyen thought were irrelevant to the context of on-going discussions on the tiruppAvai; sharp perhaps, but never disrespectful; (3) adiyen is no tiruppAvai scholar in the traditional mould; this was made loud and clear right at the beginning itself; and adiyen even openly begged members not to start comparing adiyen's "siru" attempts at appreciating the tiruppAvai with the great commentators of old and present times; (4) adiyen was simply sharing some thoughts on the poetry of tiruppAvai with the lay and less erudite members of the bhakti-list ("arivonrum-iilAda- aaykulam..."). So adiyen did keep a tight leash on his own personal interpretations and shared only those he thought were more or less in line with strict and orthodox SriVaishnava catechism. Here and there adiyen did add a sprinkling of personal ("colourful", it was called!) observations but that was only for the sake of good, harmless humour; Now, if adiyen must apologise for all that has been stated above and if that will please all members of the bhakti-list if I do so, then adiyen has no hesitation to do so rightaway and submit hereby his "sAshtAnga- danda-samarpaNams" to one and all! That is the "srivaishnava" dharma and adiyen will abide by it fully. dAsan, Sampathkumaran Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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