Vadakku Thiruveedhip PiLLai

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Sadagopan <sgopan wrote:

 

 

Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha ParabrahmaNE Nama:

 

 

NadhAdhUr ammAL

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Here, NadadhUr AzhwAn's grandson , VaradhachAr was

born by the grace of Lord VaradarAjan . He became

the AchAryan for ApuLLar , the uncle of Swamy Desikan ,

Sudarsana Soori ( the author of Srutha prakAsikai ) ,

vadakku Thiruveedhip PiLLai of Srirangam

 

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Please note that Vadakku Thiruveedhip piLLai was not the Sishya of

NaDAdhUr ammAL. He was a direct sishyA of NampiLLaI. Swamy emberumAnAr

had many sishyAs as everybody knows. Each and every SishyA had a sishyA

or sishyAs for them and that is how the " emberumAnAr dharisanam" grew.

 

Noteable among those sishyAs are KooratthAzhwAn, MudhaliAnDAn, EmbAr,

NaDAdhUrAzhwAn, ThirukkurugaipiranpiLLAn, and many others (the list is too

long). Of this NaDAdhUrAzhwAn had a sishyA named DEvarAja PerumAL and

ThirukkurugaipiranpiLLAn had sishyA named EngaLAzhwAn. NaDAdhUr AmmAL who was

also the Grandson of NaDAdhUrAzhwAn was a sishyA of both DEvarAja PerumAL and

EngaLAzhwAn. Swami Desikan falls in this lineage.

 

The famous Bhattar, Son of KooratthAzhwAn was a sishyA of EmbAr.Nanjeeyar was

the sishyA of Bhattar, The Great NampiLLai was the sishyA of Nanjeeyar.

NampiLLai had sishyAs of which some are, NaDuvil Thiruveedhi bhattar, Vadakku

Thiruveedhip piLLai,EeyuNNi mAdhavar, parama karuNigarAna PeriyaVacchAn

piLLai, pinbazhagiya perumAL jeeyar and etc.

 

So Vadakku Thiruveedhip piLLai is a sishyA of NampiLLai and not NadAdhUr

ammAL. The lineage from here goes like this. Vadakku Thiruveedhip PiLLai had

two great sons,one is the AshTAdasa Rahasya Pravakthar PiLLai LOkAchAryar and

the other is Azhagiya MaNavALa perumAL nAyaNar whose work is the great

"AchArya Hrudayam". KoorakulOtthama dAsar was one of the sishyAs of PiLLai

LOkAchAryar. He had a sishyA ThiruvAimozhip piLLai who is the AchAryan of Sri

MaNavALa mAmunigaL.

 

adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan

 

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

 

 

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Dear Sri Venkatesh :

 

Thanks for a clarificatory note on

the AchArya paramparai for Sri Vadakku

Thiruveethip Pillai .

 

Compression of two sentences in adiyEn's posting

ended up in ambiguity. Please be assured

that There was no intent to cause confusion

among AachArya paramparai.

 

What adiyEn meant was that(1)NadadhUr ammAl

was the AchAryan of ApuLLAr of

Swamy Desikan's AchArya paramparai

and (2)Sudarsana Soori as well as

Vadakku Thiryveethip PiLLai (VTP) were

participants in the famous Sri Bhaashya KaalakshEpa

GhOshti at Sri DevarAja PerumAL temple

PrAkAram. When these two different information

points got compressed , the confusion has

arisen .

 

As is well known , it is not unusual for different

AchAryAs to attend the KaalkshEpa GhOshtis

of AchAryAs other than their own direct

AchAryan . This does not ever diminish the role

of the direct AchAryan . Cases in point are

that of EmperumAnAr Himself , who had five

AchAryAs and yet He is to be considered

as the Sishyar of MahA PoorNar . ThiruvAimozhippiLLai

is the direct AchAryan in the AchArya Paramparai of

Swamy MaNavALa Maamunigal inspite of the fact

that Adhi VaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar initiated

Sri Vara Vara Muni into SanyAsAsramam .

 

For the Vadakalai SampradhAyins , Sri Vadakku

Thiruveethi PiLlai(VTP) is the last AchAryan

in their paramparai . The two SampradhAyams

branch off thereafter .

 

The Tanmiyan for Sri VTP that we recite is:

 

SrikrishNa Paadha PaadhAbhjE nmaAmi sirasA sadhA

Yath prasAdha prabhAvEna Sarvasidhdir abhUn mama

 

There sould not however be any confusion on

the most fundamental fact about

Sri VTP being the Thiruvadi (Direct

disciple ) of Swamy NampiLLai and

the author of Eedu Grantham.

 

Thanks for commenting on this

eminently avoidable slip in my writing

and correcting it quickly .

 

For completion of the information , the SaamAsrayaNa

Paramparai down to Adhi VaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar for

the Vadakalai SampradhAyins is :

 

Sri VTP --> His Prasishyar , KidAmpi SrirangAcchAr

of ThirunArAyaNapuram --> His kumarar , Sri KesavaacchAr

of ThirunArAyaNapuram--> His KumArar , Sri SrinivAsAcchAr

of ThirunArAyaNapuram , who is known as DhramiDa

aamnAya Desikan or the expert in Tamil Dhivya Prabhandham-->

His Son , Sri KesavAcchAr Swamy of ThirunArAyaNapuram ,

the father of Adhi VaNN SatakOpan , who was named

SrinivAsaachAr at birth and became the sishyar of

GatikAsatham ammAL of Kanchipuram ( the fifth descendant

of NadadhUr ammAl ).

 

Dear Sri Venkatesh, Thanks again ,

 

Daasan , V.Sadagopan

> At 01:24 PM 3/4/00 IST, you wrote:

>Sadagopan <sgopan wrote:

>

>

>Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha ParabrahmaNE Nama:

>

>

>NadhAdhUr ammAL

>****************

>

>Here, NadadhUr AzhwAn's grandson , VaradhachAr was

>born by the grace of Lord VaradarAjan . He became

>the AchAryan for ApuLLar , the uncle of Swamy Desikan ,

>Sudarsana Soori ( the author of Srutha prakAsikai ) ,

>vadakku Thiruveedhip PiLLai of Srirangam

>

>=================================x=====================================

>

>Please note that Vadakku Thiruveedhip piLLai was not the Sishya of

>NaDAdhUr ammAL. He was a direct sishyA of NampiLLaI. Swamy emberumAnAr

>had many sishyAs as everybody knows. Each and every SishyA had a sishyA

>or sishyAs for them and that is how the " emberumAnAr dharisanam" grew.

>

>Noteable among those sishyAs are KooratthAzhwAn, MudhaliAnDAn, EmbAr,

>NaDAdhUrAzhwAn, ThirukkurugaipiranpiLLAn, and many others (the list is too

>long). Of this NaDAdhUrAzhwAn had a sishyA named DEvarAja PerumAL and

>ThirukkurugaipiranpiLLAn had sishyA named EngaLAzhwAn. NaDAdhUr AmmAL who was

>also the Grandson of NaDAdhUrAzhwAn was a sishyA of both DEvarAja PerumAL and

>EngaLAzhwAn. Swami Desikan falls in this lineage.

>

>The famous Bhattar, Son of KooratthAzhwAn was a sishyA of EmbAr.Nanjeeyar was

>the sishyA of Bhattar, The Great NampiLLai was the sishyA of Nanjeeyar.

>NampiLLai had sishyAs of which some are, NaDuvil Thiruveedhi bhattar, Vadakku

>Thiruveedhip piLLai,EeyuNNi mAdhavar, parama karuNigarAna PeriyaVacchAn

>piLLai, pinbazhagiya perumAL jeeyar and etc.

>

>So Vadakku Thiruveedhip piLLai is a sishyA of NampiLLai and not NadAdhUr

>ammAL. The lineage from here goes like this. Vadakku Thiruveedhip PiLLai had

>two great sons,one is the AshTAdasa Rahasya Pravakthar PiLLai LOkAchAryar and

>the other is Azhagiya MaNavALa perumAL nAyaNar whose work is the great

>"AchArya Hrudayam". KoorakulOtthama dAsar was one of the sishyAs of PiLLai

>LOkAchAryar. He had a sishyA ThiruvAimozhip piLLai who is the AchAryan of Sri

>MaNavALa mAmunigaL.

>

>adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan

>

>Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

>

>

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Sadagopan writes:

> For the Vadakalai SampradhAyins , Sri Vadakku

> Thiruveethi PiLlai(VTP) is the last AchAryan

> in their paramparai . The two SampradhAyams

> branch off thereafter .

 

Dear Sri Sadagopan,

 

This is only true for sishyas of Ahobila Matham.

For all other members of the Vadagalai sampradaya

(Parakala Matham, Munitraya ashramas and Svayamacharyas),

the samasrayana parampara comes through either directly

through Sri Vedanta Desika or through the patrilineal

ancestor of the svayamacharya.

 

Sri Vadakku Tiruveedi Pillai is an acharya for people

such as these (including myself) through his works,

and not through any formal ritual connection.

 

ramanuja dasan

Mani