Guest guest Posted April 15, 2000 Report Share Posted April 15, 2000 I fully agree with SrI KalAle, SrI Murali KiDAmbi, SrI MaNi, et. al. on the position regarding learning rudram. I have learned rudram from my teacher here, and do chant it whenever I am called on to chant. The only question I have is regarding a portion called laghunyAsa, which is also traditionally taught at least by non-vaishNava teachers as part of teaching rudra. I believe this is not part of the veda, and has been added by someone over the course of time, just as the latter half of the phalaSruti in SrI vishNu sahasranAmam is not part of the original composition by veda vyAsa but has been added over a period of time. There are some references in the laghu nyAsa associated with SrI rudra praSnam that I believe are not consistent with the SrIvaishNava tradition. I request SrI Kalale, Mani, Murali Kidambi, et al. to clarify the position on chanting the laghu nyAsa. -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan Send online invitations with Invites. http://invites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2000 Report Share Posted April 15, 2000 This is regarding the question on "whether to chant nyasam" while chanting rudram : The laghu nyasam etc. are added since they made this rudra prasna chanting as a vehicle for worshipping Rudra as a separate deity. Srivaishnavas do not chant these laghunyasa and anganyasa since they are meant for worship of Rudra. In addition, Srivaishnavas only chant these Rudram mantrams only as a part of recitation / practice of vedic recitation. Srivaishnavas do not participate in the worship of Rudra / Parvathi and hence do not participate in occasions specially meant for such worship. The only occasions I know of orthodox srivaishnavas who chant rudram are : 1. As a part of veda parayana gosti who chant the whole yajur veda or a major portion of it which contains Rudram 2. AS a part of brahmha yajnam - a daily duty like sandhyavandana (which only few people do daily). Incidentally the ritual brahmayajnam is designed for people with yajnopavitam to keep in touch with vedas. They usually recite one / more anuvakams or stanzas of veda a day so that they wont forget. This is an almost EXTINCT tradition among modern Srivaishnavas. 3. As a part of an occasion such as "shraadhham" or some similar ceremonies, where such mantras from Rudram is ordained by the dharmashastras to be utilized. Even here the antaryami of such dieties is addressed dedicating these rituals to srimannarayanan. 4. While learning the portion of rudram which is a part of yajur veda, when a person wants to practice and learn rudram as a part of learning vedas by heart. NOTE: Srivaishnavas do not participate in puja or worship specially meant for "AnyaDevatas" such as Rudra / Parvathi / Ganesha / Murugan / Aiyappa etc. Hence when Rudram is chanted in such pujas srivaishnavas do not participate in chanting also. One might ask : " I think of only the antaryami srimannarayanan while I visit and worship anya devatas". This is unnecessary and circuitous while one can directly visit and worship in temples dedicated to srimannarayanan in his many forms. On the other hand there are mantras in vedic karmas or rituals which might have been addressed to anyadevatas. Such mantras only refer to the inner controller srimannarayana. There are several proofs offered by Sri RAmanujacharya regarding this in vedartha samgraha. Please dont mistake adiyen's writings that I am supporting anyadevata worship!. However, adiyen feels we should learn all parts of vedas irrespective of what mantrams it contains. Hence one should learn rudram also. One should not have hatred to other dieties. At the same time one should not give in to social / peer-pressure regarding these issues. One should follow the tradition sincerely; Particularly the ones who have undergone samasrayanam and bharanyasam. Our acharya Srimad Azhagiasingar has made this very clear to me on many occasions. adiyen Krishna Kalale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 I had posted the attached question in April in the list, and do not recall anyone clarifying whether the laghu nyAsam part that is taught by some as part of the SrI rudram chanting, is a part of the vedic chanting, or whether it is an addition by someone at a later time. If anyone knowledgeable in this area can clarify this, I will be sincerely thankful. Regards, -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan --- Narasimhan Krishnamachari <champakam wrote: > Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:03:25 -0700 (PDT) > Narasimhan Krishnamachari <champakam > Learning and chanting rudram. > bhakti-list > > .... > > The only question I have is regarding a portion called laghunyAsa, > which is also traditionally taught at least by non-vaishNava teachers > as part of teaching rudra. I believe this is not part of the veda, > and > has been added by someone over the course of time, just as the latter > half of the phalaSruti in SrI vishNu sahasranAmam is not part of the > original composition by veda vyAsa but has been added over a period > of > time. There are some references in the laghu nyAsa associated with > SrI > rudra praSnam that I believe are not consistent with the SrIvaishNava > tradition. ...... > > -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan > > > > Send online invitations with Invites. > http://invites. > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Srivaishnavas are insulting their own gods when they insist on ignoring anyadevatas; Rama's worship of Siva is represented by Rameswaram temple and Krishna's worship of Siva for a son , samba ,[Refer syamantaka mani story in Mahabharata ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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