Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 Dear BhakthAs : Sriman Balaji of Banglaore asked for some information on ThiruninRavUr dhivya desam.Thirumangai Mannan has performed MangaLAsAsanam for the EmperumAn of this dhivya dEsam with two paasurams in Periya Thirumozhi (2.5.2 and 7.10.5). These passurams are housed in the decads praising the EmperumAns of ThirukkaNNamangai and Kadal Mallai (MahABalipuram of today ). At these two dhivya dEsams , ThiruninRvoor PerumAl crowded in to give the darsanam for Thirumangai . It is customary for Thirumangai to stand before the EmperumAn of One dhivya dEsam , when he is reminded of the similarities in the anga soundharyam of other dhivya dEsa PerumALs , which leads him to perform mangaLAsAsanam for the PerumALs of more than One dhivya dEsam in the set of ten paasurams (decad). Thirumangai came form ThiruvEnkatam , stopped at ThiruveLLUr before arriving at ThiruninRavoor to perform his mangaLAsAsanam. ThiruninRavoor is one mile away from the railway station of Thinnanoor . The PerumAl's name is Bhakthavathsalan giving us His sevai in the standing posture facing east . ThAyAr's thirunAmam is , " YennaippeRRa ThAyAr ". The vimAnam is SrinivAsa VimAnam. The river is Vruddha Ksheera nathi. The PushkaraiNi's name is VaruNa PushkaraNi. The Lord is visible ( prathyaksham ) always to VaruNan . In 1992, adiyEn composed a monograph entitled " the 108 Sri VaishNavite Dhivya dEsams " . This monograph swelled to 426 pages . Selected material from this monograph will be included in the new CD ROM under design on " The 12 AzhwArs and the 108 dhivya desams that sung about" .adiyEn is taking some excerpts from this monograph and elaborating on it to enjoy the two paasurams of Thirumangai AzhwAr on Bhaktha vathsala PerumAL of ThiruninRavoor. Thirumangai Mannan ThiruvdigaLE saraNam , Oppiliaapn Koil VaradAchAri Sadagopan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 Dear Sadagopan Adiyen would like to add a few to this Dhivya dEsam, this is based on the info what I heard thru poorvachariars, pl correct me .. For this Dhivya dEsam , Alwar did not visit and Thayaar has urged perumal to appear before Thirumangai and demanding pasuram for him, Thayaar was so inspired with Thirumangai's Kainkaryam and hence this urge. As you mentioned Baktavasala perumal appeared before Thirumangai in Thirukannamangai divyadesam.. Let me request the bhagavadas to correct me if my understanding is not correct.. Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Gunaseelan Sadagopan [sgopan] Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:06 PM bhakti-list ThiruninRavUr Dhivya dEsam : Part I Dear BhakthAs : Sriman Balaji of Banglaore asked for some information on ThiruninRavUr dhivya desam.Thirumangai Mannan has performed MangaLAsAsanam for the EmperumAn of this dhivya dEsam with two paasurams in Periya Thirumozhi (2.5.2 and 7.10.5). These passurams are housed in the decads praising the EmperumAns of ThirukkaNNamangai and Kadal Mallai (MahABalipuram of today ). At these two dhivya dEsams , ThiruninRvoor PerumAl crowded in to give the darsanam for Thirumangai . It is customary for Thirumangai to stand before the EmperumAn of One dhivya dEsam , when he is reminded of the similarities in the anga soundharyam of other dhivya dEsa PerumALs , which leads him to perform mangaLAsAsanam for the PerumALs of more than One dhivya dEsam in the set of ten paasurams (decad). Thirumangai came form ThiruvEnkatam , stopped at ThiruveLLUr before arriving at ThiruninRavoor to perform his mangaLAsAsanam. ThiruninRavoor is one mile away from the railway station of Thinnanoor . The PerumAl's name is Bhakthavathsalan giving us His sevai in the standing posture facing east . ThAyAr's thirunAmam is , " YennaippeRRa ThAyAr ". The vimAnam is SrinivAsa VimAnam. The river is Vruddha Ksheera nathi. The PushkaraiNi's name is VaruNa PushkaraNi. The Lord is visible ( prathyaksham ) always to VaruNan . In 1992, adiyEn composed a monograph entitled " the 108 Sri VaishNavite Dhivya dEsams " . This monograph swelled to 426 pages . Selected material from this monograph will be included in the new CD ROM under design on " The 12 AzhwArs and the 108 dhivya desams that sung about" .adiyEn is taking some excerpts from this monograph and elaborating on it to enjoy the two paasurams of Thirumangai AzhwAr on Bhaktha vathsala PerumAL of ThiruninRavoor. Thirumangai Mannan ThiruvdigaLE saraNam , Oppiliaapn Koil VaradAchAri Sadagopan ------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click./1/2885/2/_/716111/_/956189136/ ------ ----------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list (AT) eGroups (DOT) com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2000 Report Share Posted April 19, 2000 Dear Sri Gunaseelan Venkatachary: Thanks very much your note. AdiyEn did not write about this aspect of what happened to Thirumangai or did not happen to Thirumangai at ThiruninRavoor for the following reasons . Some of the poorvAchAyAls have indeed said that PerumAl was busy enjoying the company of ThAyAr that He did not pay attention to Thirumangai, when he arrived for MangaLAsAsanam .It is said that the unhappy AzhwAr left ThiruninRavoor and the Lord of ThiruninRavoor gave His darsanam to the AzhwAr later at Thirukkadanmallai . Many commentators have felt that the dhivya dampathis will not ignore a Bhakthan , who has arrived at their dhivya dEsam . They have pointed out the the perumAL with the name of Bhaktha Vathsalan and a ThAyAr with the thirunAmam of "YennaippeRRa ThAyAr" will not warmly welcome their dear Bhakthan and child , Thriumangai AzhwAr. This group of commentators have pointed out that it was Thirumangai's custom to pay tribute to the other dhivya desa EmperumAns and also VibhavAvathaara moorthys in his pasasurams composed for one dhivya dEsa EmperumAn. In the subsequent paasurams on Thirukkadanmallai , Thirumangai says that he saw the Kalki avthAran and TanjaikkOil PerumAL at the Thirukkadanmallai dhivya dEsam. These commentators have explained that Thirumangai usually gets reminded of the jaadai , chaayal and aabharaNams of other dhivya desa moorthys , when he enjoys one PerumAl. What happened to Thirumangai at IndaLoor is however some thing specific.AzhwAr did not have the darsanam of the perumAL of this dhivya dEsam and got furious and has recorded his (aazhwAr's ) annoyance very clearly in his Paasurams ( nindhA sthuthi paasurams). It is not clear from AzhwAr's two paasurams linked with ThiruninRavoor that there was any such hard feelings experienced by AzhwAr at ThiruninRavoor. At Thirurneermalai, Azhwar had to wait for 6 months for the flood waters to recede before he could have the darsanam of the Lord of that dhivya dEsam. AzhwAr does not give up quickly .He would have waited at ThiruninRavoor to fulfil the purpose of his visit . With all these reasons in mind , commentatros have indicated that Thirumangai had the darsanam of Bhaktha Vathsala PerumAL at ThiruninRavoor. In one Paasuram relating to ThiruninRavoor, AzhwAr says: "NinRavoor nitthilatthai --kanDathu naan Kadanmallai TalasayanatthE "..Periya Thirumozhi(PTM) : 2.5.2 In the other Paasuram , Thirumangai acknowledges that he sought and saw the Lord of ThiruninRavoor at ThirukkaNNamangai: " NinRavoor ninRa nitthila thotthinai -- senRu naadik KaNNamangayutk kanDu-konDEnE " .. PTM 7.10.5 The thorough enjoyment of the beauty of the Lord of ThriuninRavoor does not seem to leave AzhwAr's mind at ThirukkaNNamangai and Thirukkadanmallai. Thus he refers to having seen the Lord of ThiruninRavoor at these two sthalams . The first paasuram on ThiruninRavoor ( poonDavattham--) is a profound condemnation of Veda Baahya mathams and Kudhrushti mathams . AzhwAr pities those , who follow these mathams and get deluded and performs upadEsam to these misguided souls and instructs them that the archai of Sriman NaarAyaNan at Thiruninravoor is the only true Lord , who can grant them Moksham . In his second paasuram ( yERRinai -- PTM: 7.10.5), AzhwAr points out that the Lord of ThiruninRavoor is the One, who grants auspicious boons in this world and Moksha sukham in the other world ( Parama Padham )and that He is the One , who incarnates in many roopams ( Vibhavam) for dharma samsthApanam , Saadhu ParipAlanam and Dhushta Niugraham. adiyEn, Oppiliappan Koil Varadachari Sdaagopan At 05:57 PM 4/19/00 -0700, you wrote: >Dear Sadagopan >Adiyen would like to add a few to this Dhivya dEsam, this is based on the >info what I heard thru poorvachariars, pl correct me .. > >For this Dhivya dEsam , Alwar did not visit and Thayaar has urged perumal to >appear before Thirumangai and demanding pasuram for him, Thayaar was so >inspired with Thirumangai's Kainkaryam and hence this urge. As you mentioned >Baktavasala perumal appeared before Thirumangai in Thirukannamangai >divyadesam.. > >Let me request the bhagavadas to correct me if my understanding is not >correct.. > >Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan >Gunaseelan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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