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Dear Shree Anitha Seshadri,

 

As far as the Swaroopa, Sthithi and pravruthi of Baddha, Muktha and Nitya

Jeevans are concerned, all are under supported, controlled and owned

by Vishnu only. All are Aadheya, Niyaamyaa and Sesha and inseparable

attribute/mode/body of Vishnu. Vishnu is Aadharaa, Niyaamaka and

Sehsi and therefore soul of everything (all chit and achit tatvaas).

 

All the three types of Jeevan's Swaroopa is of same type that

is unchanging, sentient, finite, eternal, bliss and sesha.

 

The swaroopa & sthiti of all three type of jeevans are supported by

Brahman (Vishnu)'s swaroopa only.

The swaroopa, sthiti & pravruthi of all three type of jeevans are

controlled by Brahman (Vishnu)'s sankalpa only.

All three types of jeevans are owned by Vishnu only.

 

Same is the case with three types of Achit (Trigunya, Kaala (SatvaSoonya)

and Sudha Satva) also.

 

The verse "SwAdhina Thrividha CHetanachetana Swaroopa Sthithi

Pravruthi BHedham" of Gadhya Thrayam means this.

 

(You have mentioned "baddha" as "bhakhta" in you mail which is a mistake.

Please do not mistake me for pointing the mistake)

 

Thanks & Regards

M.S.HARI Ramanuja Daasan.

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Dear BHagavathas,

 

Does the Swaroopa,sthithi and Pravruthi of

Bhaktha,Nithya and Muktha

differ from each others? If so,how do we say that the

swaroopam

all the jeevathma is PArathanthriam to Emberuman.If

not,what does

the verse "SwAdhina Thrividha CHetanachetana Swaroopa

Sthithi

Pravruthi BHedham" of Gadhya Thrayam mean.

 

Kindly anyone help me out in clearing this doubt.

 

 

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

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Dear Shree/Shreemathi Anitha Seshadri,

 

1. "TharpaNam, Shraaddham" etc., are "Aagnyaa Karmas" for the son of

the Prapanna. Though the Mukthaatmaa does not have any need for it, his

son who is in the still in material world has to do them as it is

necessarily to be done as "Bhagavat Aagnyaaya Shreeman Narayana Preetyartham"

with "Saatvika Tyagam". One must not skip the nitya and naimitika aagnyaa

karmas - this is the reason why it is needed for the son to do them.

 

2. "Othaar MiKaarai Ellaiyaya Maamaya" - Alwar clearly states that

Shreeman Narayana is unparallelled and unsurpassed. An entity may

not have another entity which is equal. This unparallelled

nature always does not rule out unsurpassed nature. That is why

Alwar states it clearly the paratvam of Lord Hari.

 

3. Ekathandi Sanyasis are generally sanyasis following "Advaita".

On the other hand Thrithandi Sanyasis are those who follow

Parama Vaidika Matham which is Visishtadvaita Shree Vaishnavam.

 

Thanks & Regards

M.S.HARI Ramanuja Daasan.

 

 

 

 

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Respected SriVaishnavas:

 

I am a new entrant to the Bhakti List. I am a software entrepreneur and

run a

company called 'Fusion Software Engg Pvt Ltd'(www.fusionse.com) and we

also have a sister concern, Ramsoft Technologies Pvt Ltd

(www.ramsoftech.com) based at

Bangalore, India. I started these companies with two other partners 15

years

ago. I have keen interest in our tradition and philosophy and hence

chose to become a member of this esteemed group.

 

I have some information on the second point. Sriman Nigamanta Maha

Desikar

says in his 'Acchyutha Shatakam' a sloka:

na khalu tava sadrshabhyadhikaha natha tvamEva sarva lOka sharanyaha

etAvat gnyAna sAramiti gnyAtum tridashanAtha itara vichintA ||

 

Here he says that there is no one equal or surpassing you and to know

that this

is the essence of all gnyAna, Hey Lord, we do all other study/learning.

(kindly excuse me for any mistakes in the translation or language, I am

not

really used to this)

 

I think it is to make it absolutely clear that he is the greatest it is

said that HE has no equals or anyone greater than HIM.

 

Narasimha dAsan

 

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