Guest guest Posted May 19, 1999 Report Share Posted May 19, 1999 Mohan R Sagar <msagar wrote: "As a kid, I was somewhat rebellious to the whole idea of wearing thiruman, poonal, etc. While adulthood brought me back to my senses somewhat, it is only after joining this forum and interacting with other bhAgavathas that I have fully realized the psychological and spiritual benefits of traditional symbols and clothing." (etc.) I know many NRIs who have expressed similar ideas. It seems to be a problem of tradition vs. modernity. Evidently, other communities are grappling with tradition/modernity issues too, one example being the Sikhs. Someone who doesn't see your points will probably be unable to understand why the question of eating on the floor, instead of at a table, is such a big deal for them. But my impression is that such (malleable?) religious traditions are based on essential principles. In the sense that vaishnava philosophy is intended for practical application, as well as for the benefit of mankind (cf. BhAgavatam, 10.22.35), I think such topics have definite philosophical merit. My experience has always been that social influences are stronger than scriptural ones; perhaps that's why such questions of traditional vs. modern dress are even an issue at all. I would be interested to know if there is an official Shri vaishnava view on this, but it seems to me that the injunctions of smritis and dharmashastras take this social phenomenon into account, i.e., how to regulate external and necessary actions in such a way as to elevate or increase consciousness of Lord Vishnu. SmartvyaM satataM viSNuH, ityAdi. A related question addresses the intrinsic value of the traditional vaiSNava attire. Do Shri vaishnavas regard such as the dress of VaikuNTha, and wouldn't this explain how it can increase one's awareness of God? For that matter, isn't the entire culture of the vaishnava tradition (and I'm assuming that it can be generalized to some extent) postulated as representative of that of vaikuntha? Even if it is rather seen as (only) modeled after the accounts in shastras and vaishnava literature, it would seem to me that vaishnava traditions, which possess such detailed and explicit descriptions of the spiritual realm, should have the least problem with these questions, for my impression is that there is an ideal (or idealized?) culture, adhered to more in the past than the present, and that this ideal has been practically encouraged and demonstrated by the examples of great souls in literature as well as history (cf. GItA, 3.21). Such persons, beginning with LakSmI and NArAyaNa Themselves, don't wear jeans. At least they aren't portrayed that way as far as I'm aware. Taking this point of view, then, it is more than a question of tradition vs. modernity; it appears as of some of us strictly uphold these ideals in terms of personal practice whereas others have to compromise them somewhat. And that's quite understandable; I do it myself. But if it is at all avoidable, I usually try to avoid doing so in the temple or among vaishnavas. And at any rate, the enthusiatic "ruci" implicit in one's own good example is far more effective than innumerable "fatwas" and other artificial and fanatical means of inspiration (Is this is a similar logic as that of "rasa varjyaM raso 'py asya paraM dRSTvA nivartate," etc.?). However, I'm admittedly not very familiar with Shri vaishnava thought, so I would appreciate anyone's kind and learned comments, thanks. One final thing I can humbly offer from personal experience is that it appears much less awkward for an Indian to wear sari or dhoti, etc., than it is for a Western caucasion. Respects, MT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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