Guest guest Posted July 17, 2000 Report Share Posted July 17, 2000 SrI KrishnAya namah: Dear BhAgavatAs, NamasKarams. My dandavat pranAmams to Sri Mohan sAgar. This mail cleared most of my doubts and produced clarity of thoughts and provided me with basic flow. I was not even clear of my questions. Sri Mohan sAgar understood me correctly and answered in a way that I can easily understand. Many Many Thanks to him. It was like mother feeding sweet pAL sAdham to her child. Although the child is not clear what to ask, mother feeds him appropriately with Love. I also could feel the sweatness as well as Love in his mail. I would like to thank Sri Anand also for his direct explanations in clear terms. - especially regarding Angi and AngAs, I think, I have a basic understanding of prapatti now. I would like to read Sri Anand's articles on saranAgati & prapatti on Ahobilamutt's home page. Recently I also bought the Book " VAISNAVISM - Its phylosophy, theology and religious decipline by SMS Chari" I will carefully read 13th Chapter ( Prapatti as means of attainment of Visnu ) After reading of the above two I would like to present my understandings on this forum again to make sure that my understanding is right. Thanks for the encouragement I got from all of you. If somebody asks me what is the first step one should do for attaining moksha - I suggest the very first thing as Subscribe to bhakti-list <bhakti-list > dAsan, Mahesh Mohan Sagar [msagar] Saturday, July 15, 2000 9:36 PM kmahesh; bhakti-list Re: saranAgati Dear Sri Mahesh: prapatti or saranAgathi is the quintessence of our philosophy and tradition. So, although it is the surest and easiest means to realizing the Lord, it is the most complex to describe and fully understand. However, in an attempt to answer your questions, I would like to provide a brief and rough synopsis of the two prevailing understandings of prapatti, at least to the best of my limited understanding of them: The first understanding of prapatti along with its 5 accessories can best be described by your term, "a mood," a psychological and spiritual awakening -- perhaps analogous to an epiphany in Christian faith -- in which the devotee becomes unquestioningly aware of the fact that in his true state, he is completely dependent upon and wholly subservient to Sriman Narayana. As this state of being is the true nature of the soul, nothing is really "performed" on the part of the aspirant other than an acceptance of this awakening. The 5 accessories that were so eloquently described by Sri Mani are both contained within and are the result of this realization. What naturally follows is a life of humility and service to the Lord, and the firm faith that since He is the Lord and Protector, one's salvation will surely occur when the Lord feels the time is right. No one can really limit what conditions and at what time such an awakening occurs. But, for the sake of practicality, most people regard the receiving of samAsrayanam under an AchAryan -- the solemn occasion when the devotee is initiated into the 3 Sacred Mantras -- as being the moment when such a state of mind can begin to be cultivated. But, as the Lord Himself is solely responsible for all souls, proponents of this view are quick to point out that even this very realization or prapatti is due to His Grace Alone. Consequently, nothing on the part of the individual has really brought this realization into being, and there is really nothing that the individual need do further, other than humbly accepting the joy and peace of mind that comes from this awakening. The second understanding of prapatti only slightly differs from the first. While it is recognized that prapatti is in line with the soul's natural state, the question arises as to whether we, after so many eons of avoiding the Lord, can really be sure that we have all the 5 qualities to be able to come to this realization properly. As we really can never really be sure, the best alternative is to seek out someone who embodies these good traits, an AchAryan, and have him/her teach us, or better yet, have him/her serve as a mediator, beseeching the Lord for protection on our behalf, as we are unqualified to do so. This latter method presumes that prapatti does involve a conscious and sincere effort, in which we, guided by the Lord, go before an AchAryan and beseech him to surrender to Him on our behalf. Since such an opportunity involves a time, a place, and a specific set of actions on our parts, it can best be achieved through participation in a solemn ritual, bharanyAsam. Whether through a mental affirmation, or through the mediation via bharanyAsam, prapatti really rests on our unswerving faith in our Supremely Kind and Accessible Lord, who promises us that He will take care of us unconditionally and unceasingly throughout our lives on this earth, and will indeed give us mOksham, if we simply leave ourselves to His care. Since this promise is unconditional, performing prapatti more than once would, in essence, show our lack of faith in Him. It would be like accepting a promise from a true friend, and then making sure that the friend holds good to his words by asking to him to make that promise again. Giving in to the Supreme Promise of such an Endearing Being as Sriman Narayana is something so irresistible and so engaging that it would be virtually impossible to fall from it. But, even if we were to transgress in our path, the Lord out of His Kindness will never forget His promise to us, and will either, ignore the transgression, as proposed by those holding the first view, or punish us mildly as a reminder to us to stay with the path that our AchAryans have tread in performing prapatti on our behalf. The above is a brief synopsis of a very complex subject, based on my limited understanding of what has been taught to me. Any errors in the above are mine alone. I hope this helps. Ramanuja Dasan Mohan ------ Get great brand name shoes with just the click of a mouse. Check out the huge selection at Zappos.com, the Web's Most Popular Store! http://click./1/6994/5/_/716111/_/963677295/ ------ ----------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list (AT) eGroups (DOT) com Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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