Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 SrI: SrI Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha SrI Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrIvaN - SaThakOpa SrI nArAyaNa Yateenda mahAdESiKAya namaha namO nArAyaNa! Dear SrI Narasimhan, Thanks for voicing your views. As clarified by SrI Hari, he never questioned the efficacy of nAdOpAsana as a very good means to achieve the performance of either bhakti Or Prapatti. He only ascertained from SAstras that only bhakti and prapatti are the direct means (sAdhyOpAya) to attain SrIman nArAyaNa, which is what the teaching of SrI VaishNava AchAryas. It would have been better to get it clarified from him on his views. Please go through his mails again. > where is it stated in the srutis. well, saint > tyagarajA, UthukkAdu venkatasubbier and the likes were > born in advaiti families, but they were as much > srivaishnavites as anyone of us can ever be. casting > aspersions on their nAdOpAsanA is blasphemy to my > mind. it is something even sriman nArAyaNA will not > forgive and certainly tantamounts to bhAgavatha > apachAram of the highest order. if somebody were to > say that nAdOpAsanA will not lead to prapatti, adiyEn > does not want that kind of prapatti. if someone were > to say that tyAgarAjA or UthukkAdu or purandaradAsA's > nAdOpAsanA will not lead to mOkshA, adiyEn does not > aspire that kind of mOkshA. First of all, none of the members to my knowledge have cast aspersions on the nAdOpAsana of SrI TyAgarAja and others. By the way, as you have written, SrI TyAgarAja and many other such music-saints were advaitins, as far as their philosophical conviction and practise is concerned. They were very much immersed in the anubhava of the SaguNa Brahman, as per their siddhAnta. This is the concept of "bhakti" for advaitins. SrI Purandarar was a Dwaitin and for that great music-saint, Lord NArAyaNa is certainly the ultimate reality, unlike the advaitins. In short, according to advaita, SaguNa Brahman viz. SrIman nArAyaNa with all kalyANa guNas, knowledge etc is only unreal ultimately and only the mere jn~yAna without any attributes viz. the nirguNa Brahman is the *only* reality. All other entities are actually unreal. Their concept of moksham is the complete realization of oneself as that of "nirguNa Brahman" with disappearene of dualities (ie.no other entity is being perceived). The means to achieve it is through the "avidhEya jn~yAnam" born out of understanding the profound meaning of the statement "Tat-tvam-asi" in vEdas. "avidhEya jn~yAnam" implies that, the moksham (nirguNa Brahma realization) is obtained through the jn~yAnam obtained by understanding the meaning of "Tat-tvam-asi" which is as though as a pratyaksha jn~yAna and there is no "vidhi" Or injunction to do something more than that as a means. But, advaitins do caution that "Only male SanyAsis of BrAhmana caste" shall attain such "avidhEya jn~yAnam" (AJ). To attain the "state" in which one becomes qualified for receiving the meanings of Tat-tvam-asi and thereby attain AJ, there are many rigorous practises that are stipulated to be followed. Here comes the role of karma anushThAna, bhakti etc as per vEdas and Smrutis. Specifically, extreme bhakti towards "SaguNa Brahman" ie. "God" is a must for those who see dualities and are aspiring for moksham, which is through AJ. Once one is totally immersed in such contemplation on God, a suitable state (pakkuvam) is attained so that one is fit to learn advaita vEdAnta and the mysteries of mahAvAkyAs like Tat-tvam-asi. If one is not a BrAhmana etc, by following the SAstric injunctions according to one's VarNAshramadharma and deeply immersed in God, they will attain the Male BrAhmana body in their future births. They will then reach that pakkuvam/state to hear on nirguNa-Brahman through the imports of mahAvAkyas and attain AJ. Thus, bhakti is very very important for an advaitin, since it is a must to achieve his goal viz. moksham. All the great philosophers of advaita like SrI Adi Sankara Bhagavad pAdAL, SrI MadhusUdana Saraswati and others were great propagators of devotion to their concept of SaguNa Brahman, which in general is known as "God". It is well known as to how much they were well immersed in their contemplation on SaguNa-Brahman, to attain the "pakkuvam" for the birth of AJ. Many advaitins like SrI Sadguru SwAmigaL, SrI BOdEndrAL and others spent all their lives spreading the message of Bhagavan nAma sankeertanam and contemplation on God (ie. SaguNa-Brahman for them). There is a large following of SrI Sadguru SwAmigaL even to this day, who was the champion-establisher of the "Bhajana sampradAyam" to contemplate on God as an anga to advaita vEdAnta jn~yAna. SrI KrishNa PrEmi, a great upanyAsakar, is a well known follower of this bhajana sampradAyam. Since according to advaita vEdAnta, lot of qualification is needed for the study of their philosophy, only the aspects of devotion to God and other related issues of SaguNa-Brahman are told for the general public. SrI KrishNa PrEmi has explained in his books on this bhajana sampradAya SrI KAnchi SankarAchArya in his article (as published in SrI KrishNa Premi's book on Bhagavan/rAma nAma mahimai) explains the origin of this bhajana sampradAya stressing upon nAma sankeertana etc as an anga (accessory) to advaita vEdAnta. There are also many other advaitins like SrI NArAyaNa BhattAdri of NArAyaneeyam fame who were immersed in the contemplation of their SaguNa-Brahman. Few SrI VaishNavas well interested in Carnatic Music wish that SrI TyAgaraja be a SrI VaishNava Or Prapanna. But, SrI TyAgarAja is well recognized by all scholars (including SrI VaishNava scholars) as a great music-saint who used nAdOpAsana in a very effective manner as an anga to advaita vEdAnta. In the flag end of his life, he took sanyAsa (ofcourse as per the advaita sampradAya) in the hope of attaining AJ ie.moksham. The sishya parampara of SrI TyAgarAja is also very much present and they do not adhere to the doctrines of ViSishtAdvaita and SrI - VaishNava practises. According to SAstras Or SrI VaishNava AchAryas, advaitins do not attain moksham directly, since they haven't exercised either the "Bhakti-YOga in its completion, as per its actual nature" Or "Prapatti" as sAdhyOpAyas. But, those advaitins who were steeped in contemplating upon SaguNa-Brahman will soon get a birth (Or a realization in that very birth itself) with the obstacles being removed by SrIman nArAyaNa for their actual understanding of Tatva-hita-purushArtha and practise of either bhakti-yOga Or Prapatti in its actual nature. They in due course of time will certainly attain SrI VaikuNTham. For more info on Bhakti and Prapatti, kindly visit the archives and the article in SrI Ahobila Mutt's Homepage http://www.ahobilamutt.org in the link "About SrI VaishNavam". To be cont .... aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, anantapadmanAbhan. krishNArpaNam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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