Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 Dear Shree RR Swamy (eyetex), I appreciate your mail. I would like to present my ideas regarding the points that you have mentioned in your mail as follows. >The most important aspect which should concern all of us are: >i)how will we manage to take the teachings of Bhagawan Ramanuja, Sri >Nigamantha Desika , Sri MAnavala Mamuni and their Successors who have >been and are Great Acharyas in their own right to the common persons >in a very simple manner and in a language they can understand and follow? "Philosophy and practice" is a vast subject, which requires lot of levels of study from basics step by step. Before one could consider teaching the grantas of our poorva-aacharyas, what I suggest is a common man should be taught regarding the greatness of our philosophy and practice. Then he should be educated regarding Veda and logically explain to him that only Veda is the authority in knowing God-Brahman who is Purushoththaman Shreeman Narayanan. The beginner has to be first made to understand that the pramaana for tatva-hita-purushaarthas is the apowrusheya Veda. Only when the beginner understands this in various levels step by step in terms of the first four Brahma Sutras - "Athaatho brahma jignyaasa", "janmaadyasya yatha:", "saastra yonithvaath", "thaththu samanvayaath", he can start understanding what philosophy and practice is all about. Then he should be educated further using the saastras and logic that Visishtadvaita Shree Vaishnavam is the philosophy and practice. Of course I agree with you that all these things must be told in simple manner and in a language (preferably English) - because it has world wide appeal. Without educating the basics and that too specifically regarding Veda, I think, it will be difficult to teach him directly the grantas of our poorva-aachaaryas. Book alone is not sufficient in this regard. First and foremost thing is cultivating interest in the minds of beginners. The next is stressing the importance of pramaanam-Veda. After that is teaching the philosophy and practice of the Veda which is Visishtadvaita Shree Vaishnavam - the parama-vaidika-matham. >ii)since we are supposed to learn the said essences of Visishtadvaitha >thro' these Acharya Purushas, are we devising a system more suited to the >fast changing world which looks for instant solutions to every problem in >life OR are we going to take our usual systems forward which , to me, >looks as if will admit fewer and fewer members into the inner learning >circle? This point is very interesting. It is a must that we need to learn the siddhantam and anushtaanam only from the Acharya Purushas. The system of imparting this knowledge which is in our ancient Shree Sampradayam is through Veda Adyayanam, Puraana-ithihaasa-smruthi-saastra adyayanam, mimaamsa, Shree Sampradaaya Grantha kaalakshepam, Guru-Upadesam of Mantra-trayam etc. There is no need to create a new system. The ancient system may be enhanced only in terms its spread in various parts of the world. For this, the modern media like internet etc., can be used to certain extent. Ofcourse, mantropadesam etc., can be had only in person. It is always the best to learn the grantaas by kaalakshepam under the full guidance of Shree Vaishnava Aacharya in person. The modern improvements like tele-upanyaasams are helping a lot in this regard. Further mere book knowledge will not be always beneficial. Direct Aachaarya-upadesam is the best in this regard. >iii)how do we impress upon and convey to the most common and the poorest >sishya or abhimani the baic essence of our pilosophy and the teachings of >our Acharyas? For this, we need to make the most common and the poorest sishya or abhimani to first understand the greatness of Veda which is the Pramaanam. Then our poorva-aacharya's works must be taught to him step by step from basics. Also, each concept has to be explained as the Brahma Sutra explains it in five components namely vishayam, samsayam, poorva-paksham, siddhaantam and prayojanam. This will not only impart the correct knowledge but also will make the most common and the poorest sishya or abhimani to realise that our Visishtadvaita Shree Vaishnavam is the only philosophy and practice which is not only in strict accordance to the apowrusheya Veda but also rational and has got answers for all questions. This has to be done initially by simple presentations (in English preferably) of the contents of our poorva-aacharya's works like Yatindra-matha deepika. Then gradually using other grantams like para-matha-bhangam etc. Our poorva-aacharya's grantams have all the answers for all sorts of questions. But they are in Sanskrit, Mani-Pravaalam and Tamil. The standard of the grantams are peerless. All that is to be done is, educate beginners regarding Veda, basics of philosophy. Then we need to cultivate interest in him to learn the poorva-aacharya grantams under the full guidance of Shree Vaishnava Aacharyas. >iv)do we accept that the system is now more structured to reach out to >and to teach the affluent and if so,how do we ensure that all are made >equally welcome in these places of learning? This is a point, which is having great importance. It needs lot of efforts to implement. But once the interest is cultivated in the minds of beginners, then I think the system can be implemented easily & successfully. >I have held and am holding a responsible position and am convinced that >the time for action is now without resorting to flippant comments.Believe >me i have been there for nearly 28 years and there are several ways we >can broadbase our institutions without losing our sanctity or the glory >of our Asramams or Mutts. I admire your 28 years of kainkaryams. I am very much interested in knowing your ideas regarding the same. Thanks & Regards M.S.HARI Ramanuja Daasan. __________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Dear bhAgavathas, What I am about to share may appear to be slightly radical. But, please know that it is not at all my intent to challenge some of the traditionally held views of how to properly foster proper traditional practices among our community. But, before we jump forward with further discussion on teaching sAstra pramAnam and vaidikam, or enforcing dress codes within our muthams and temples, I thought that I would share a deeply personal incident in my life that may help in shedding a slightly different view on the subject. My parents are wonderful and devout people. But, like many SriVaishnava immigrants to the US of their day, they have very little formal background or interest in the nuances of our satsampradAyam. All they could teach my sister and myself about SriVaishnavam could best be summed up in three statements: --It was founded by a saint named Ramanuja --He taught that Vishnu and Lakshmi are the Supreme Truth --We hail from families who are his followers Needless to say, such a limited understanding of SriVaishnavam did little to prevent a hodge-podge of religious ideas to become part of our family's life. From childhood to early adult years, I was exposed to every aspect of mainstream "Hindu" thought, from temple worship to Baba bhajans, Avani Avittam to Amritanandamayi, ISKCON to Chinmaya Mission. But, behind it all was a simple and sincere faith, as my parents joined other Indians of the day in seeking out answers to help them live in what is undoubtedly one of the most complex and least understood societies of the present day, the US. To those of you living outside of this country, and even for many of you who live here, it appears that the USA has very little to offer other than material comforts. It is a place of high stress, low moral values, and little if any spiritual significance. But, those like myself who grew up here can tell you, there is much more to the US than that. It is also a place of deep emotions, a full tapestry of ideas that range from the ridiculous to the sublime, and all the spaces in between. The person who is engaging in all sorts of hedonistic delights one evening can be providing one with profound wisdom the next. Observers of this strange array of hedonism and lofty idealism can only liken US life to the descriptions of Lanka found in the Sundara khAndam. And, it is against the backdrop of this leela vibhuti of our Lord that a young college student who now calls himself Mohan Raghavan sat weeping one late night, lost in the meaningless of his own self-created purgatory. His friends had deserted him, his parents could not understand him, and the so called "Iyengars" of the day were too busy diversifying their portfolios to provide him with any spiritual solace. All that he -- I -- could turn to was the hodge-podge of spiritual ideas that my parents had exposed me to. I recall myself having spent many days prior to this time sifting through so many ideas like a search engine, struggling and fighting through the futility of advaitam, becoming disillusioned by the magic tricks of the pseudo gods, on and on, until that night when, for some inexplicable reason, my thoughts centered on one person: Ramanuja! This great soul with all his magnanimity, philosophical brilliance, and deep empathy for the human condition would capture my heart that night, and would guide me on a journey that would lead to my dear wife, my now dear friends, and to this forum. It could have been very easy for me to choose some other faith or the follow the prevailing trends towards the latest pseudo-deity. But, when I recalled what I read about Ramanuja's life and teachings, all I felt was that nothing else could even come close to what he said or how he lived. Committing to him that night was the only thing that I could think of doing at the time. But, frankly what was I really doing other than accepting simply accepting Perumal's katAksham. And now, over a dozen years later, on another sleepless night, and another set of circumstances to contend with, there are tears in my eyes again. But this time, they are tears of joy, for in my heart of hearts, Sri Ramanuja is still there, stronger than ever. You must forgive the sentiment in my words, but this my friends, this unconditional love for Sri Ramanuja, is something that I truly believe we must foster in ourselves and in our families before even beginning to talk about the more formal aspects of SriVaishnava life. Every other sect proclaims the greatness of their guru. We only talk about the greatness of our sampradAyam. While we must not downplay the merits of vaidika life, let us first keep in mind that love and faith are very very powerful emotions, and it these very emotions that these pseudo gods are using to spread their own message. But, it is also these same emotions that can also lead people back onto the proper path. Let us go forth first in spreading Ramanuja's Vaibhavam in every nook and cranny of this world, let us foster the same love that he felt for every human soul in our hearts and let us seek to provide others with the same solace and meaning that he has provided to all of us. Let us chant his name so loudly that it pales to insignificance the name of any other so-called guru or baba, and let us spread his universal message to each and every person who is interested in hearing it, irrespective of race, caste, or gender. All other things will naturally proceed . I seek forgiveness if my sentimental ramblings have offended anyone in any way. emperumAnAr thiruvadigalE saranam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mohan Raghavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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