Guest guest Posted October 12, 2000 Report Share Posted October 12, 2000 Hello, This is a question from Harikumar L (harikumarl) who is no longer d to the list. I am forwarding it on his behalf. Thanks, Harini >From HariKumar:- Sri Sita Ramachandra Parabrahmane namah. My humble namaskarams to all the bhagavathas of the forum. I got a doubt when I was reading the Mundakopanishad translated and commented by Dr. N.S.Anantha Rangachar. I'm giving the mantrA and its translation below. Gathah kalAh panchadasaprathishta devasca Sarve pratidevatAsu karmAni vijnAnamayasca Atma pare avyayae eki bhavanti.(3.2.7) "The fifteen constituents merge in their own respective sources. The indriyas become one with the respective deities presiding over them. The karmas and the jIvAtman qualified by consciousness, all become unified in that Supreme immutable Atman." This verse is taken by the advaitins to convey the identity of jIvAtman with ParamAtman. THe term 'eki bhavanti' as per them conveys identity. But this argument is untenable because the mantrA states that karma and the jIvAtman becomes one with the Supreme. As per advaita, karma does not become identical with Brahman. So what does the term 'eki bhavanti' signify? This term ‘eki bhavanti’ is used in the Subala Upanishad while explaining the universal dissolution. Prthivyapsu pralIyate Apastejasi lIyante tejo vayau liyate ………………………………………………………….. bhUtadir mahati lIyate mahAn avyakte lIyate. Avyaktam akshare lIyate aksharam tamasi lIyate tamah pare deve eki bhavati During universal devastation, earth merges into water, water merges into fire, fire merges into air, air merges into ether(sky) etc. then tamas becomes one with the Supreme Divinity. Here every entity is said to undergo layA(merge) in its antecedent entity, starting from prithvi upto tamas. But tamas is said to “become one with” (eki bhavanti) Brahman and there it is not said to be laya. When earth completely leaves its form and becomes water, then it is laya. In this state, the element earth no more exists as an individual element. Similarly when water completely gives up its form and becomes fire, then it is layA. After this layA, the element water no more exists individually. This laya goes on for each entity upto tamas. But tamas is not said to undergo laya but it is said to “become one with” (eki bhavanti) Brahman. This means that it enters the transcendental body of the Lord and remains in a very subtle state in him. Because of this, it is indistinguishable from him, but it is not totally dissolved in him. In this context, the term 'eki bhavati' is meant to be 'becoming indistinguishable' from Brahman. Cane the same meaning be taken to understand the above mantrA from Mundakopanishad? i.e. the jIvAtman becomes indistinguishable from Brahman by attaining the same status as him, but not identical with him.If we take so, then the following difficulty arises:What happens to karma which is mentioned in the mantrA?.Does it also become indistiguishable from Brahman? I humbly request you to enlighten me by giving the explanation of this mantrA. With namaskArams, L.Harikumar _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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