Guest guest Posted October 17, 2000 Report Share Posted October 17, 2000 Dear Sri Lakshminarayanan: At 01:32 PM 10/16/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I have 2 questions: > >1. I have been told by elders from day-1 that >while doing Japam (gAyathri or moola manthram >or any other that I should cover my hands >that are counting with the Utthareeyam. Why is >it so? Response : ********* In the GayathrI Manthram , PraNavam (OmkAram) is Purushan and Gaayathri is Sthree . " OmkAra: Purusha: PrOktha: GaayathrI SindarI tathA TayOssamyOga kaalE thu Karam aacchAdhayEth Budha:" --VisvAmithra Kalpam (meaning ): PraNavam is a Man and GaayathrI is a lady. That is why the Manthram is recognized as "Sthree PumsAthma GaayathrI" Both the hands have to be held under the UttharIyam and Japam has to be performed for realizing Phalan. The idea is to respect their privacy during their union . This procedure of using UttharIyam is generally followed for all Japams as well. AhnIkam says : ayamEva NyAya: (This is the right thing to do. > >2. Could we do japams using beaded mAlai (garland). >Any specific rules about using sandal wood bead mAlai. Response: ********* The count is done with fingers and thumb of the right hand in the prescribed way . One moves it clockwise until one comes to starting point (10 counts). Japa Maalai is not used for GaayathrI japam . For other japams , Lotus bead maalai or TuLasi bead maalai is preferreed. Sandal wood bead maalai has perfume and hence it would be distracting while one concentrates on Manthra Japam , which also requires the meditation in between on the artham of the Manthram. The Japam is also done silently without lip movement .Anything that distracts has to be avoided. There are a lot more vidhis (rules)for Japam . Hope this is sufficent for now. V.SatakOpan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Sri: Namaskaram Does the starting point on the right hand for the counting has any significance at all? During my conversations with other non-srivaishnava friends, I came to know that they start the counting from the middle of the ring finger (the second notch) and move clockwise. It was also indicated to me that the counting takes a shape of praNavam. I would appreciate your notes on this. Thank You Rajeev sgopan wrote: ---------------------------- The count is done with fingers and thumb of the right hand in the prescribed way . One moves it clockwise until one comes to starting point (10 counts). Japa Maalai is not used for GaayathrI japam . _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Lakshmi Narayanan writes: > 1. I have been told by elders from day-1 that while doing Japam (gAyathri or > moola manthram or any other) > that I should cover my hands that are counting with the Utthareeyam. Why is > it so? > > 2. Could we do japams using beaded mAlai (garland). Any specific rules about > using sandal wood bead mAlai. I am a novice in these matters, but here is what I have gathered. Regarding (1), covering the hands during japam, there appears to be two reasons I have inferred, both stemming from the idea that others should not be aware of how many times (Avartanam) we are doing the japam. The first and obvious reason is humility. We should not be showing off the degree of our austerity or the greatness of our resolve. The second is derived from the belief that when the devas see someone steadfast in his desire to meditate or perform tapas, they place countless obstacles in that person's path. This is because such a devoted person, as he transcends identification with the body, will perform fewer sacrifices and therefore give less 'havis' to the devas. We read about this happening to many great tapasvis in the past. Keeping the amount of japa to oneself is a measure of protection against this. (How devas place obstacles in the path of the mumukshu is beautifully described by Sri Sankaracharya in his taittirIya upanishad bhAshya.) Regarding (2), I really have no answer based on SAstra, but I do know that I find it much easier to do a large number of gAyatris (such as 1008) when I use a japa-mAlai. Elders have advised me to use some external aid when I am doing 1008 gAyatris so I don't lose count, and focus more on the counting than the japa itself. I don't find the aroma of sandalwood distracting since I normally do the japa in the perumAL sannidhi where the fragrance of incense, sandalwood, paccai karpUram, etc., are all already present. rAmAnuja dAsan Mani P.S. I was also taught to place my yajnopavItam with brahma-muDi in my hands while doing gAyatri-japa. Apparently this practice is not followed by everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 Dear members, In this regard I came across the following slokam from a book of sandhyAvandhanam. This slokam is mentioned in the preface of this tamizh book. The slokam is as follows: anAmikA madhyadhESAth adhO vAmakramENa cha | tharjanI mUla paryantham japasyaivam krama: karE || - dEvI bhAgawatham 26.a.18.19.su This slOkam means "one should start counting from the middle rEkai of one's ring finger and go clockwise counting each rEkai and end at the bottom rEkai of the index finger thus completing 10 japa". Warm regards, chandrasekaran. > Sri Rajeev Karamchedu wrote: > > Does the starting point on the right hand for the counting > has any significance at all? > > During my conversations with other non-srivaishnava friends, > I came to know that they start the counting from the middle > of the ring finger (the second notch) and move clockwise. > > It was also indicated to me that the counting takes a shape of praNavam. > > I would appreciate your notes on this. Thank You > > Rajeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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