Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Respected Swamis: A distinquisedspeaker recently gave a lecture in which he said that all sanyasis are grouped in 10 groups. The higest group is called parama hamsa and sanyasis of all other groups have to pay obeisance to the sanyasis in the parama hamsa group. Is this correct? To what order do sanyasis in the Sri Vaishna tradition belong? Adiyen D Balasundaram Ramanuja dasan _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Bala Sundaram writes: > Respected Swamis: > > A distinquisedspeaker recently gave a lecture in which he said that all > sanyasis are grouped in 10 groups. The higest group is called parama hamsa > and sanyasis of all other groups have to pay obeisance to the sanyasis in > the parama hamsa group. Is this correct? Dear Sri Balasundaram, There are two different issues here. One is the 10-fold grouping, to which the Sri Vaishnava sannyAsis do not belong, and the 'grading' of sannyAsis, which is universally accepted, with 'paramahamsa' being the highest. The speaker you mention must have only the Advaita tradition and its rules in mind. The sannyAsis of the Advaita tradition are classified into 10 groups. This is known as the dASanAmi tradition, said to be organized by Sri Sankaracharya himself. You may wish to see the following Web page for more info: http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/ad-today.html The 10 groups are bhAratI, sarasvatI, sAgara, tIrtha, purI, ASrama, giri, parvata, araNya and vana, generally referring to a spot conducive to meditation, such as a river, mountain, forest, etc. Traditional Advaita sannyasis as a rule belong to one of these 10 groups and bear the group's name at the end of their own. For example, the the previous maThAdhipati of the Sringeri maTha bore the title SrI abhinava vidyA tIrtha. Interestingly, for historical reasons, mAdhva sannyAsis nominally belong to this classification as well. Sri Madhvacharya's actual name as a sannyAsi was SrI Ananda tIrtha. Neo-Advaita Vedantins such as the Ramakrishna Order, Chinmaya Mission, etc., have their own initiation procedures and do not belong to these groups, though they are influenced by them. All of these sannyAsis abandon the sacred thread, topknot, and consequently the gAyatrI mantra as part of their initiation rite. Sri Vaishnava sannyAsis do not belong to the dASanAmi tradition and in many cases have different rules. For example, our sannyAsis do not abandon the sacred thread or topknot and continue to perform trikAla-sandhyAvandanam and gAyatrI japa. There are a wide variety of texts which govern the life of a sannyAsi, ranging from ancient Upanishads, more recent Upanishads, dharma-sUtras, smRtis, and Puranas. Each tradition of sannyAsis accepts a different subset of these texts as being authoritative and interprets certain passages differently. Some of the key ritual differences are outlined by Sri Yadava Prakasa, a contemporary of Sri Ramanuja, in the 'yati-dharma-samuccaya', said to be written at the acharya's command, and in two vAdas of Sri Desika's 'SatadUSaNi'. (The yati-dharma-samuccaya has been translated into English, and is easily available. Please see http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0791422844/srivaishnahomepa/102-9296102-2\ 948920 for more info). For all practical purposes, all Sri Vaishnava sannyAsis bear the title 'paramahamsa', and most senior, traditional Advaita sannyAsis also do so. The rule regarding other groups paying obeisance to the paramahamsas applies more to the Advaita tradition. Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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