RE: Digest Number 218

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Sri Raamajayam

SrimathE GopAla DEsika MahA DEsikAya Namaha

 

Dear Bhagavathaas,

It was AdiyEn's intention to share the joy of

"Maayanai Mannu Vada Mathurai" Paasuram celebrations at our home, and

not generate any unpleasantness amidst members on the Bhakthi list. Also

it is not AdiyEn's intention to force my personal belief's on other members,

which I leave to the Sri Vaishnava Scholars, our "Learned and Practicising Sri

Vaishnava Acharyas" and ofcourse the desire/Vairaghyam of the members to

hear/understand and assimmilate Sri Vaishnava SampradAyam. AdiyEn merely capped

the summary of the day.

 

As for specific questions addressed by Sri.Mani,

1.U.Ve.Sri.Hari had performed a simple Araadhanai at his home, before he brought

the Kutti Perumaal to our residence. In fact Swamin was telling me the same

message, for which AdiyEn was passionately enquiring about the Pramaanas and

Poorvacharyas dictum on the issue. Now that Swamin has mentioned our Acharyas

views, AdiyEn am left with no doubt on Sri.Hari's message to AdiyEn. Thanks

Mani.

 

2.As for Ganga/Yamuna/Kaveri issue, AdiyEn's personal view is, let us not get

into needless debates into which river is purer(similar to a previous episode on

Bhakthi before, where Bhagavathaas tried to identify the best Divya Desam). No

river can be purer than the Daya Sagaram of the Divya Dhampathis. Same for the

Divya Desam(Paramapadam). The message(rasa Dvani) of the Upanyaasam was to

keep our purity in thought and action without "Ithara Devathaa Samandham", which

can distract Prapannas.

 

Hope AdiyEn have clarified these issues, without having to generate counter

threads on this topic.

 

AdiyEn Sri Raamanuja Daasan,

 

Sudarsana Dasosmi

>>Message: 7

>> Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:35:11 -0800

>> Mani Varadarajan <mani

>>Re: Maayanai Mannu Vada Mathurai....

 

 

Dear Sudarsan,

 

Nice to hear of the vibrant activity in Singapore.

I have a couple of observations, if you don't mind:

 

(a) The normal order of events during mArgazhi mAsam

is FIRST the usha: kAla visesha ArAdhana, including

tiruppAvai recital and only then the prAta: sandhyA.

The reason for this is that the visesha ArAdhana

is done before sunrise, so it belongs before the sandhyA

(clarified by Srimat Poundarikapuram Andavan Swami).

 

(b) The criticism of the Ganga river sounds rather harsh.

I would consider it a privilege, as nearly all Vaidikas

do, to bathe in the same water that touched the body

of a great bhAgavata such as Siva. When Sage Vishvamitra

was guiding Rama and Lakshmana through the forest, Valmiki

Maharishi writes:

 

bhavAnga-patitam toyam pavitram iti paspRSuH |

 

They bathed in the waters [of the Ganga] considering

it pure because of contact with Siva's limbs

 

[ SrImad rAmAyaNam, bAla-kANDam ]

 

Perhaps it is 'na hi nindA stuti', but still a little

bit troublesome.

 

With regards

aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan,

Mani