Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 sri: srimathe raamanujaya namaha: Dear Bhaktas, I remember coming across a mention of the divya desam in some of the paasurams of moonRam thiruvanthadi of pey alwar. There are specific(?) mentions about Puri in this prabandham. But traditionally puri is not included in the list of 108 Divya Desams. 2282 thirukkaNdEn ponmEni kaNdEn, thikazum arukkan aNin^iRamum kaNdEn, - serukkiLarum ponnaazi kaNdEn *puri* sangam kaikkaNdEn, ennaazi vaNNanpaal inRu. (2) 1 There are a few other paasurams with the word puri. I also heard that there is a mention in Rig Vedam about the sthala puranam of Jagannathar Koil. I seek inputs/clarifications from bhagavatas on this topic. Thanks and Regards, Adiyen Ramanuja Daasan, Malolan Cadambi "Jayatu Jayatu DevO DevakI NandanOyam" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 At 03:00 AM 2/18/01 -0600, you wrote: >sri: >srimathe raamanujaya namaha: > >Dear Bhaktas, > >I remember coming across a mention of the divya desam in some of the paasurams of moonRam thiruvanthadi of pey alwar. >There are specific(?) mentions about Puri in this prabandham. But traditionally puri is not included in the list of 108 Divya Desams. > >2282 >thirukkaNdEn ponmEni kaNdEn, thikazum >arukkan aNin^iRamum kaNdEn, - serukkiLarum >ponnaazi kaNdEn *puri* sangam kaikkaNdEn, >ennaazi vaNNanpaal inRu. (2) 1 > >There are a few other paasurams with the word puri. Dear Sri malolan Cadambi: The Puri that you are referring to in the First Paasuram of Third ThiruvandhAthi of Pey Azhwaar has nothing to do with the AbhimAna Sthalam of Poori JagannAth in Orissa. The Puri here rhymes with PURI IN HasthinaPURI and not with Poori . Puri here stands for the valampuri Sankam usually found on the left hand of PerumAL . At ThirukkOvilUr, the Divine Puri Sankam is in reverse order. It is on the right hand . Puri Sanku is also known as KoonaR Sanku or the bent one. This Koonam in Paanchajanyam is said to arise from Seshathva, Vinaya and Bhagavathanubhava reasons . V.SatakOpan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 Dear Sri Malolan, Puri is not a Divya dEsam. I'm afraid you've wrongly interpretted pEyAzhwAr's pAsuram. As part of describing about his experience on what he saw in Him, Azhwar says " ... (I) saw Chakram and Shanku on His hand ...". "sangam" means Shanku (is it mussel in English?). As we all know, each sanku has an orientation with respect to its spiral formation. Lord's Sanku is also called "valam puri sankam", meaning "the shanku which has the orientation on the right side". "Puri" being a common word in Tamil, it may not be a surprise to have the word referred in a few places in prabandham. But it may not be right to take those places as a reference for Jagannatha temple in Orissa. dAsan Balaji Malolan Cadambi wrote: > > sri: > srimathe raamanujaya namaha: > > Dear Bhaktas, > > I remember coming across a mention of the divya desam in some of the paasurams of moonRam thiruvanthadi of pey alwar. > There are specific(?) mentions about Puri in this prabandham. But traditionally puri is not included in the list of 108 Divya Desams. > > 2282 > thirukkaNdEn ponmEni kaNdEn, thikazum > arukkan aNin^iRamum kaNdEn, - serukkiLarum > ponnaazi kaNdEn *puri* sangam kaikkaNdEn, > ennaazi vaNNanpaal inRu. (2) 1 > > There are a few other paasurams with the word puri. > > I also heard that there is a mention in Rig Vedam about the sthala puranam of Jagannathar Koil. > > I seek inputs/clarifications from bhagavatas on this topic. > > Thanks and Regards, > > Adiyen Ramanuja Daasan, > > Malolan Cadambi > "Jayatu Jayatu DevO DevakI NandanOyam" > > > > ----------------------------- > - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - > To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list -- Balaji Krishnan, HCL Technologies, Cisco ODC, India Tel. +91-44-3741939, Ext 2255. Fax +91-44-3741039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2001 Report Share Posted February 21, 2001 I am distressed that the correspondent has rushed to cite the 'aruLi-c-cheyal' scripture in this fanciful manner. The 'puree' in Jagannath-puri is a Sanskrit word signifying a seat, an abode, a city. The 'puri' in "puri-Sankham" is a Tamil word for the groove found on conch-shells. The two (and the third, the pancake 'puri') may sound like homonyms, but are not. I also regret that several postings on bhakti-list purporting to discuss profound issues reflect this level of language equipment. Does not the 'sampradayam' merit greater attention and preparation ? aDiyEn Ramanuja-dAsan, Sundara Rajan. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Malolan Cadambi wrote: I remember coming across a mention of the divya desam in some of the paasurams of moonRam thiruvanthadi of pey alwar. > There are specific(?) mentions about Puri in this prabandham. But traditionally puri is not included in the list of 108 Divya Desams. > > 2282 > thirukkaNdEn ponmEni kaNdEn, thikazum > arukkan aNin^iRamum kaNdEn, - serukkiLarum > ponnaazi kaNdEn *puri* sangam kaikkaNdEn, > ennaazi vaNNanpaal inRu. (2) 1 > > There are a few other paasurams with the word puri. > > I also heard that there is a mention in Rig Vedam about the sthala puranam of Jagannathar Koil. > > I seek inputs/clarifications from bhagavatas on this topic. > > Malolan Cadambi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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