Jaya Vijaya (was a Sri K.Sadananda's query)

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Srimathe rAmAnujAya namaha:

 

Dear Sri Sadanandagaru,

 

You wrote:

> 5. When ones goes to VaikunTa there is no return back, is it not?

> yadgatvaa na nivartante tat dhaama paramam mama - says Giita. Then I

> hear about the story of Jaya and Vijaya who were guards at the

> vaikunTa. Their behavior towards Sanatkumaara-s indicates that they

> are subjected to rajo guNa even in VaikunTa - and they were cursed to

> return back to the earth. How do we account the triguNa-s even in

> Divyavibhuuti - and that jiiva-s are still under their influence. If

> jaya and vijaya can return back then other jiiva-s can too. But that

> violates B.G. statement. Any clarification?

 

I had asked the same question to the forum in June 2000. I received an

excellent reply from the dhouhitran of Abhinava Desikar Uttamur Swami. Sri

Anand K Karalapakkam has beautifully explained your query.

 

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Sri:

SrimatE Sri Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha

Sri Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrivaNN-

SatakOpa Sri nArAyaNa yateendra mahAdESikAya namaha

 

Dear devotees,

namO nArAyaNa !

 

< The following write-up by adiyEn is in my computer

for more than an year. But, in adiyEn's memory it

has not been yet posted to the bhakti list. Hence,

forwarding it in the light of the recent discussion >.

 

Jaya and Vijaya Episode :

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The question is to know whether the curse took place in either

SrI VaikuNTham Or kArya VaikuNTham (replica of SrI VaikuNTham

in the material world). This question is dealt by SwAmi Desikan

Himself in His VirOdha ParihAram ( part of Chillarai rahasyam).

 

 

Swami Sri Desikan says in VirOdha parihAram #107:

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"ippadi sila janmAntara SamskArAdikaL upakarikka

anukUla SvabhAvarAyp piRandu muktarAkap prAptarAnAlum,

janmAntarankaLilum pratikUlanAy antima janmattilum

tAn padumaLavum (i.e. until death) etirambu kOttu

ninRa sisupAlanukku "pratibhavam aparAddhu: mugddha

SAyujadObhU:" (stOtra ratnam #63) enkiRapadiyE mOksham

koduttapadi en? ennil,

 

adiyilE sri vishnu lOkattilE dvArapAlapadam peRRAr

iranDu ksEtrajyar bhAgavatapachAra-visEshattAl moonRu

janmam pratikUlarAyp piRandu, avvapachAra phalavasAnattilE

pazhaiya padam peRRu kramENa muktaRAy ninRArkaL enRu

purANasiddham AakaiyAlE ippadippatta vishayangaLilum

munpuRRai (that which was present earler) adhyAtma-

sikshai adiyaaga mOksham ennumidam siddham."

 

Essence of the above (Using Sri SrirAmadEsikAchAryA's

vivaraNam, published by Poundarikapuram Ashramam ):

 

Qtn 107 :

 

It is understandable to see someone who is born as a good person,

with good habits (due to sukrudams of previous births), get the

opportunity for mOksham. But, how come someone, like Sisupalan,

who committed offenses in previous births, and continued to commit

offenses even in the current birth till the time he died, got

moksham, as described in ALavandhAr's sthOthra ratnam #63?

 

Answer :

 

There is a lOkam under Sri Vaikuntam called Vishnu lOkam (kArya

VaikuNTham). Two exalted jIvas who were holding the post of guards

for the Lord in this lOkam committed offenses against bhAgavathas.

Because of this they were born three times as opponents of the Lord.

In this way they suffered the consequences of their bhAgavatha

apachaaras. After that they got their old posts back. Then, in

due course of time, due to the upAyas they undertook they attained

mOksham. This history is clear from purANas. Thus, in matters such

as this, it is clear that moksham can be attained through an upAya

(either bhakti or prapatti) because of the already present

knowledge on vEdAnta .

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Thus Jaya and Vijaya who were being cursed, were dwArapAlakAs

at Vishnu lOkam and not at SrI VaikuNTham. Some devotees didn't

knew about the declaration of SwAmi dESikan regarding this issue

and thought that this incident took place at Sri VaikuNTham,

for PerumAL to just have a vyAjA(excuse) for incarnation. This

reasoning was strongly based on the fact that there are nitya

soorIs named Jaya and Vijaya, who are at Sri VaikuNTham

as dwArapAlakas.

 

Actually, Jaya and Vijaya at Sri VaikuNTham were not at all

involved in this episode. They being nitya soorIs were serving

PerumAL at Sri VaikuNTham. Vishnu lOkam has the exact replica

of Sri VaikuNTham and the "post"/service of the gatekeeping

was performed by two baddha jIvAtmAs. The name of the "post"

got identified with their name ie. Since at SriVaikuNTham, the

nitya soorIs Jaya and Vijaya serve as gatekeepers, any baddha

jIvAtmA serving as gatekeepers in Vishnu lOkam are also called

as Jaya and Vijaya.

 

Lets take the example of Siva, Indra, Brahma etc. These are

actually posts. A baddha jIvAtma will take these posts for a

particular period and later on, that post will be occupied by

some other baddha jIvAtma. Similarly , in the Vishnu lOkam,

the dwArapAlaka kainkaryam ( Jaya and Vijaya) is a specific

post obtained by certain exalted baddha jIvAtmas. Ofcourse, not

all the posts in Vishnu lOkam be given to baddha jIvAtmAs. Here

also nitya soorIs will be performing kainkaryams. We can't make

any blanket statements that everyone at VishNu lokam are only

baddha jIvAtmas.

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But a question naturally arises here : In the kArya

vaikuNTham , exalted devotees perform the kainkaryam of gate

keeping. Why then they have to suffer like that of being born

in earth as HiraNyakaSipu and HiraNyAksha in Kruta yuga,

RAvaNa and KumbhakarNa in trEta yuga, SisupAla and Dantavakra

in dwApara yuga ?

 

Answer : BhAgavatha apachAram to the rishis (Already answered).

 

This BhAgavatha apachAram is made as a vyAja for perumAL to

start His avatAra leelAs. NityasoorIs like AzhwArs demonstrated

how a baddha jIvAtma should behave ; jaya & vijaya ( non-nitya

sooris) in their three births demostrate in a way as to how a

baddha should not behave. The bottomline is that PerumAL needs

different roles for His fulfilment of avatAra leelAs. Such key

roles are occupied by nitya soorIs, baddha jIvAtmas from kArya

vaikuNTham etc.

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Finally, lets look into what Srimad BhAgavatham actually says

regarding this issue :

 

Sage NArada tells King YudhiSThira (7.1.36) :

" yekadA brahmaNaha putrA vishNu lOkam yadrucchayA |

sanandanAdayO jagmushcarantO bhuvanatrayam || "

 

" Once upon a time, when the sons of (chatur mukha) Brahma,

namely, Sanaka, Sanandana, SanAtana and Sanat-kumAra were

traveling throughout the three worlds, they by chance came

to _VishNu lOka_".

 

Here it is explicitly told that Sanaka and others (who are not

muktas yet) went to VishNu lOkam only. Also, when they are

traveling inside the material world, they can't by chance enter

Sri VaikuNTham.

 

 

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

ananthapadmanAbha dAsan

krishNArpaNam

 

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Thanks and Warm Regards.

 

Adiyen Ramanuja Daasan,

 

Malolan Cadambi

 

 

 

 

 

 

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