Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 The scriptures mention that God assumes various manifestations from time to time to protect "virtuous people".Also the Bhagwad Gita says.. yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharaata abyuthanam adharmasya tada atmanam srjamyaham paritrnaya sadhunam vinashaya cha dushkrutaam dharma samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge my question is why should Lord come down to punish the "evil" ? Can't he do it from vaikuntam itself..by his mere sankalpa? I hope someone will throw light to my question. regards __________ For regular News updates go to http://in.news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2001 Report Share Posted June 18, 2001 Dear friend: Avataras of the Lord are for 3 purposes. Paritranaya Sadhoonaam (Saving the virtuous), Vinaasaaya cha Dushkrithaam (destruction of evil ones) and Dharma Samsthaapanaaya (Establishment of Dharma). Of course, He can do all the three by remaining in His Srivaikuntam and by His mere Sankalpa. Why, then should He come "down to earth"? By being in the proximity of virtuous people, He imparts a sense of reassurance to them that He is there to protect them and they need have no fear. Vide "Abhayam Sarva bhoothebhyo: dadaami ethad Vratam mama" and "aham tvaa sarvapapebhyo mokshayishyaami, maa suchah". Also, He loves His devotees so much that He cannot bear to be physically away from them. He says in Gita, "the Jnaani is my own Atma". How could He be away from His own Atma, when that Atma is on this earth? My two cents worth. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2001 Report Share Posted June 18, 2001 Dear Sir, Time and again our Poorvacharyas have maintained that two reasons for God's Avatharams are 1. Sadhu Samrakshanam(Parithranaya Sadhunam) and 2. Dhusta Nigraham. However, out of the two above reasons, Reason 1, ie Sadhu Samrakshanam is more importanat. Best Example is Narasimha Avataram, he could have finshed off Hiranya Kasipu, just by his sankalpam. However, he wanted to make the words of his Pure Devotee Prahalda true, that he is everywhere, that prompted the Lord to manisfest. Similarly, KRishna himself says that he had earlier resolved that all the duryodanas are dead. This does not need a Kurukshetra war, yet, out of his compassion to the human race, he wanted to give sarama slokam , by way being born. Swami Pillai Lokachar says that Sri Mahabharatahm talks of "Dhootu ponan etttram' ie, talks of greatness of the messenger'.. This shows Lords Sowlabhyam,(or Neermail In Tamil) who is all prevelant and all powerful, yet does a lowly jobs like messenger, charioter , freind etc for those whom he love, Pandavas. Thanks KM Narayanan "vitesse iyen" <vitesse_iyengar on 06/16/2001 12:28:50 PM bhakti-list cc: the significance of avatars The scriptures mention that God assumes various manifestations from time to time to protect "virtuous people".Also the Bhagwad Gita says.. yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharaata abyuthanam adharmasya tada atmanam srjamyaham paritrnaya sadhunam vinashaya cha dushkrutaam dharma samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge my question is why should Lord come down to punish the "evil" ? Can't he do it from vaikuntam itself..by his mere sankalpa? I hope someone will throw light to my question. regards __________ For regular News updates go to http://in.news. ----------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of is subject to The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ============================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2001 Report Share Posted June 18, 2001 Dear Sir: (vitesse_iyengar) wrote: > The scriptures mention that God assumes various > manifestations from time to time to protect > "virtuous people".Also the Bhagwad Gita says.. > yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati > bharaata > abyuthanam adharmasya tada atmanam srjamyaham > paritrnaya sadhunam vinashaya cha dushkrutaam > dharma samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge > my question is why should Lord come down to punish the > "evil" ? > Can't he do it from vaikuntam itself..by his mere > sankalpa? Your question is very valid. He could have done it very easily.He does not do like that because while trying to kill the adharmam, he also has tried to show how Human Beings have to upheld values in life to reach his abode, as he did with Rama Avatara(obeying Parents' words), Parasurama (Listened to Father's words), and also in line with the boons that Asuras enjoyed, like Hirayan can only be killed by some superior being which is not a living, non-living thing, this that etc.. The question that you have posted actually relates to His Avatara Rahasya too. If you could read the verses that precede and follow the verse you have stated from Gita, He says the following to Arjuna's questions: 1. He assumes body in his avatara which is true(like Human Being) 2. His Body is always called Tirumeni, which does not loose its charm by taking any form, unlike ordinary human body 3. He does not loose His Qualities whenever and wherever he is born. This can be known from Alwar's Anubavam of Varaha Peruman, TiruVikraman, Narasimhan etc.. 4. Whenever there is Adharmam, He comes into this world in some form to kill it. 5. Finally, to protect the People who uphold Dharmam, He comes to the world to protect them.(Parithranaya Saadhunam.. verse) I have few more thoughts on this topic which I am not able to exress in words now, but will write them too. Pardon me if there is any mistake, Thank very much, Adiyen, Ramanan Rajagopalan ------------------------------- iruppidam vaikundham vEnkatam * mAlirunchOlaiyennum poruppidam mAyanuk enbar nallOr * avai thannodum van thiruppidam mAyan irAmAnusan manathinRavan van thiruppidam * enRan idhayaththuLLE thanakkinpuRavE. ------------------------------- ______________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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