Contd: Clarification on Ugra Narasimhar

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Sri ramanujaya Namah:

Sri Nigamahantha desikaya namah:

Sri Lakshmi Narasimha Paramatmane parabrahmane namah:

 

My respectfull obeisences to all

 

I have the following questions before me, can anyone

pls clarify me me these doubts

 

Why did the lord selected Nara Simha and not any other

form?

( it was supposed to be neither human nor animal,

could have been any animal , why only simham)

 

We say that only rama and krishna are poorna

avatars.? why not narasimhar

 

in all the avatars, no where lakshmi is involved

only in narasimha lakshmi is directly involved? why?

 

"Tat hiranya kasibu abavath.." there is a mantra in

Brahmanam

how come this mantram is in brahmanam when the avatar

is later

 

I plead the members of this group to pls clarify me,

these points

 

Sri: adiyen

Sridhar.S

 

 

 

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Swamin

Adiyen Gunaseelan wish to reply reg the query why God takes Simha Avathar

instead of Elephant etc..

As I heard from the one of the Upanyasam of Sri Velukudi Krishnan Swami,

who is second to none in his classical way of explaining Vaishnava

Philosophy an their meanings in a way even adiyen can understand.

 

When Hiranyan asked his Child Praklathan, where is He and, we know that

Prakalathan replied that He is every where and then Hiranyan asked whether

He is in the pillar standing next to him, the answer is obvious Yes from

Praklathan. Now only the important pledge from Hiranyan comes, he told

Praklathan that if He is not here I will kill you and eat you like a Lion

killing an elephant ..

Till this time God has not prepared His mind about His shape etc , once

Hiranyan uttered these words He has decided to take the Simha Avathar and to

do the same thing what Hiranyan has vowed to Praklathan. By this we can

infer how much He takes a Bhagavada Apacharam and lot more inner meanings .

 

Also there is referral of Peria Thirumozhi "Thiruvallikeni" Paasuram in this

context. Since Hiranyan has ignored to consider Praklathan as his child

( by doing so much apacharams) Alwar (Thirumangai) started calling

Praklathan as His Child "than siruvan".. Also in the same Paasuram Alwar

says "vaayil Or Ayara Namam" , we heard that Praklathan has told only

"Narayana" namam and not the Sahasranamam then why the word "Ayara Namam",

the explanation goes like these.. Think Praklathan heritage, is form a

Asurar kulam, if a child from such kulam says one namam, its equivalent to

Ayara Namam, then start thinking about ourselves , if we say one namam its

equivalent to 10 power n times of narayana namam, if we recite Ramanuja

namams its effect is "n" times more 10 power "n" times n. So we will start

recitation of Ramanuja Nooranthathi atleast from today..

 

If there are any errors its purely due to the misunderstanding of adiyen

upon hearing of Sri Krishnan swamy's Upanyasam and if there is any thing

Good the credit will obviously goes to him.

 

 

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

 

Gunaseelan Venkatachary

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Friday, September 21, 2001 3:03 AM

Contd: Clarification on Ugra Narasimhar

 

> Sri ramanujaya Namah:

> Sri Nigamahantha desikaya namah:

> Sri Lakshmi Narasimha Paramatmane parabrahmane namah:

>

> My respectfull obeisences to all

>

> I have the following questions before me, can anyone

> pls clarify me me these doubts

>

> Why did the lord selected Nara Simha and not any other

> form?

> ( it was supposed to be neither human nor animal,

> could have been any animal , why only simham)

>

> We say that only rama and krishna are poorna

> avatars.? why not narasimhar

>

> in all the avatars, no where lakshmi is involved

> only in narasimha lakshmi is directly involved? why?

>

> "Tat hiranya kasibu abavath.." there is a mantra in

> Brahmanam

> how come this mantram is in brahmanam when the avatar

> is later

>

> I plead the members of this group to pls clarify me,

> these points

>

> Sri: adiyen

> Sridhar.S

>

>

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SrI:

SrImathE Gopaladesika Mahadesikaya namah:

Dear Sri Sridhar,

 

Sri Guna Venkat replied very beautifully:

Let me add two cents worth on the GREATEST SrI Narasihma avtaar.

 

HiraNyakasipu asked:

 

Oh Prahalada, if He is there everywhere, why is He not here- present

in this pillar? Let me cut your head and let me see how your most

worshippable Lord comes to protect you. With terrible anger,

hiraNyakasipu struck his fist against the pillar.

 

aLanthitta thooNai avan thatta AngE vaLarndhittu vALugirrch singavuruvaay/

... (PeriyAzhwAr Thirumozhi)

 

THERE APPEARED FROM THE PILLAR, CAME A fierceful sound, which appeared to

crack the covering of the universe. It reached even the abodes of Brahma.

Demi-gods thought the planets are getting destroyed.

 

Sri NammAzhwAr's ThiruvAymozhi describes wonderfully:

 

"engum uLan KaNNan enRa maganik kaayndhu/

inghu illaiyaa? enRu iraNiyan thooN pudaippa,

"anghu", "appozhudhE" avan veeyat thOnRiya

"en" Singapiraan perumai aarayum seermaitthE..

 

what an anubhavam and emotional narration of MaaRan..!

Prahalada says.. enghum uLan. (KaNNan is there everywhere)

IraNiyan asks "inghu illaiyaa? (is He not here?)

The Bhagawathas say "He is everywhere.

The athiest asks in negative.

Bhagawatha is affirmative and positive.

anghu- (Then and there..-Immediately), appozhudhE, avan veeyatthOnRiya..

what a word! en- My Singapiraan- ennudaiya Singapiraan- My Lord Nrusimhan-

ArAyum seermaitthE- Can His graetness be measured and comprehended? (Never)

 

HiraNyakasipu studied the form of the Lord:

 

It was extremely fearsome, because of His angry eyes, like molten gold,

shining mane, which added ferocity to the face, His deadly sharp teeth,

His razor sharp tongue, the erect ears, the cave like nostrils and the

mouth, slightly parted jaws, the whole body so huge that it touched the sky,

short neck and thick, broad chest, thin waist and the body hairs like the

rays of moon. Long arms spread in all directions;

 

Just a small insect falls forcefully into the fire, the insignificant

creature becomes invisible, HiraNyakasipu attacked the Lord, who was

full of effulgence. Like Garuda plays with the snake by slowly releasing

and again catching, the Lord left him a little by letting him come back

to fight; HiraNyakasipu thought he is winning.

 

Making a huge noise, shrill sound of laughter, the Great Lord Sri Narasihman

who is extremely strong and powerful, captured HiraNyakasipu, and with the

great speed, He hit him on the strong chest. With great speed, HiraNyakasipu

was tossed sometimes in the sky and sometimes in the earth, he kept his eyes

closed because of fear of the Lord and His laughter.

 

Lord Sri Narasingan placed HiraNyakasipu on His lap supporting him with

His thighs, in the doorway, at twilight and effortlessly and very easily

tore open the demon to pieces with His sharp nails.

 

Lord Sri Narsimhan's mouth and mane were sprinkled with blood, His

fearsome, fierce eyes, full of anger, were just impossible to look at.

Licking the edge of the mouth with his tongue, simply threw the body aside.

 

Manifesting a full effulgence, He roamed in the corridors, being very

angry. He sat down on the assembly hall on the throne. No one, out of fear

could dare come near except Prahalada.

 

Brahma requested Prahalada, Sri Narasimhan is extremely angry and fearsome

at Your father. Please go to Him and only You can appease Him. He appeared

only for You. (Naturally, four faced Brahma is very scared; because he only

had granted such a boon to HiraNyakasipu).

 

Prahalada gradually (A devotee is not at all scared of the Lord) went to Him

and fell down prostrating at His Feet to pay His obeisance.

 

The Lord (with angry eyes) looked with great dayA and compassion to

Prahalada (what a combination! Only he can have such fierceful, merciful

eyes simultaneously)

 

He became ecstatic to see His devotee and placed His Lotus Hand

on the head of Prahalada. Prahalada became completely freed of all

contamination (if any existed), and his heart was full of Parama bhakti.

 

Although the Lion is very ferocious, it is very kind to her cubs.

Although fearsome, and fierceful (to HiraNyakasipu- non devoted

People), Sri Narsimhan is very kind and merciful to devotees.

 

Oh Narasimhaa! You are sarva sakthan. When You have decided

to protect someone, is there any need to look for someone else?

And should You decide Not to save one, is there anyone who can

save him at all? Realising that, I surrender to You Lotus Feet only.

Swami Desikan's Kaamaasikaashtakam (slOka 8):

LET US PLACE OUR HEADS AT HIS LOTUS FEET TOO AND SURRENDER

Regards

Narayana Narayana

NarayaNa dAsan madhavakkannan

 

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