Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Mani writes in response to Sri Sadananda's exposition on Wed. Sept. 26: >If you see all your explanations, they posit ideas which >are taken from *outside* the core texts themselves and which >seem opposed to logic. You must be familiar with the principle >of Occam's razor -- when you have two competing theories that >explain the same situation, the one that is simpler is better. Dear Mani, My question concerns your use of the Ockam's razor principle to point out flaws in Advaita. Is there any Sastric justification for this. That is, is the "Rockam's Razor" idea mentioned in our NyAya or Tarka sastras? If not, how are you justified in using it? The second question concerns the principle of Ockam's razor itself. It seems to me that what constitutes a "simpler theory" to explain a certain phenomenon is itself a subjective judgment. To state that the theory that makes fewer assumptions is the right one, assumes that those are the correct assumptions. I think we should emphasize the correctness or reasonable of assumptions rather than focus on their minimization. Our assumptions are often a function of our conditioning and this poses a problem by itself as well. Sincerely, Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 Arun, Your point is correct that Occam's Razor may not enough to determine whether a given theory is correct in Vedanta. However, I would argue that it is still definitely an important tool in *helping* evaluate validity. If you read Vedarthasangraha, it is very clear that at times Ramanuja is pleading with Vedantins to look at elegance and simplicity when reconciling the shastras, rather than bringing in external ideas which only further complicate the issues. The idea of two kinds of sruti bandied about by Advaita -- a higher and lower kind, one teaching of an attributeless, indivisible (nirvisesha) Brahman and the other of an attributed, creator-God (saguNa) Brahman -- is no doubt an ingenious device, but it is an external imposition upon the Vedas which ends up being a headache, especially when in Ramanuja's opinion, there is no need for any such thing. The simple way of looking at the situation is that the two kinds of sruti both speak of the same entity in different ways. I define "simple" to mean that which can be easily drawn from the text itself without introducing external ideas. Let's take a more absurd case, such as Madhvacharya's interpretation of 'aham brahmAsmi', one of the great unity texts of the Upanishads. Madhva abhors any kind of identity between jIva and paramAtmA and uses grammatical tricks to make the word 'aham', which nearly always means 'I', to mean 'aheyam', or 'faultless'. 'asmi' to him means something like 'Lakshmi', if I am not mistaken. This on the face of it is farfetched, but it is grammatically justifiable. The only argument we can make is something similar to Occam's Razor. The context simply does not justify such complexity. The easy and natural approach should be taken. Another way Occam's Razor is applied in the controversy over the vAkya 'tat tvam asi'. Advaita uses 'lakshaNa' to ascribe secondary, figurative meaning to the words 'tat' and 'tvam' to have them both mean the absolute non-different Atman (this is known as jahad-ajahad- lakshaNa). Ramanuja argues that such complexity is simply not justified when the facial meaning of the words themselves can be taken and properly understood in the equation. Without simplicity being some sort of measure, we are left with no way of evaluating competing theories, particularly when grammar allows multiple meanings to be ascribed to a text. I am not trained in nyAya and tarka to know if there is a particular formulation of Occam's Razor in Indian logic. I invite others who are in the know to contribute their thoughts. Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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