Introduction of myself

[Guest guest]

Hello everybody,

 

My name is Murali Krishnan. My father is from

Kancheepuram & mother from Tirupathi. Though I was

born in my mother's place, all my studies and early

life were in Chennai, Tamilnadu.

 

Both of my parents love the Lord Krishna and

automatically they inspired me to know more about him

and the Gita. I have been reading the Gita over and

over again (Bhagavad Gita as it is by Swami

Prabhupada) and I will do so till the end.

 

I am very happy to have joined this group.

 

Regards

 

MuraliKrishnan

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear sri Murali Krishnan,

If you are so interested in Gita, please pick up a book on Ramanuja

Bhasyam. This is the best interpretation possible on Gita. All other

interpretations have problems. If possible learn this text under a guru,

even if it takes effort to do so.

 

regards,

 

krishna Kashyap

 

 

krishnan murali [muralikrishnan21]

Monday, November 26, 2001 11:20 PM

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Introduction of myself

 

 

Hello everybody,

 

My name is Murali Krishnan. My father is from

Kancheepuram & mother from Tirupathi. Though I was

born in my mother's place, all my studies and early

life were in Chennai, Tamilnadu.

 

Both of my parents love the Lord Krishna and

automatically they inspired me to know more about him

and the Gita. I have been reading the Gita over and

over again (Bhagavad Gita as it is by Swami

Prabhupada) and I will do so till the end.

 

I am very happy to have joined this group.

 

Regards

 

MuraliKrishnan

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is and Ramanuja Bhasya are both

excellent piece of commentary. Both are from different

Sampradayas of vaishnava. Bhagavad Gita As It Is by

Srila Prabupadha is based on Brahma Gaudiya sampradaya

while Ramanuja Bhasya is based from Sri Sampradaya.

The goal is the same but the philosophy is different.

This is my opinion.

 

Bala

Beijing.

 

 

--- Krishna Kashyap <kkalale1 wrote:

> Dear sri Murali Krishnan,

> If you are so interested in Gita, please pick up a

> book on Ramanuja

> Bhasyam. This is the best interpretation possible on

> Gita. All other

> interpretations have problems. If possible learn

> this text under a guru,

> even if it takes effort to do so.

>

> regards,

>

> krishna Kashyap

[Guest guest]

Dear Bala,

 

I do understand about these two sampradayas. I have been conducting research

on Gita for a couple of decades now. I definitely know that I dont know Gita

thoroughly. However, I feel that the meanings as indicated in Gaudiya

sampradaya, tend to not fit into the verses very well. For example the

interpretation of the term atma in first 6 chapters is taken as God /

Paramatma in Srila Prabhupada's gita as it is. However it fits the role of

jivatma better. This is indicated in the 6th chapter last verse yoginamapi

sarvesham madgatenantaratmana shraddhavan bhajate yo mam sa me yuktatamo

matah. - which indicates the yogi mentioned hitherto is the one who

meditates predominantly for self realization and the highest yogi is the one

who meditates on paramatma / Lord Krishna. This becomes clear in the 7th

chapter which starts with mayyasakta manah partha yogam yunjam madasraya....

 

Please do read other bhasyas and even shankara bhasya to get a comparitive

view and deeper appreciation of the gita, which according to me, is the best

precis of perennial philosophy.

 

regards,

 

krishna

 

 

 

Balakrishnan M [balakrsna007]

Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:18 PM

Krishna Kashyap; krishnan murali; bhakti-list

RE: Introduction of myself

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is and Ramanuja Bhasya are both

excellent piece of commentary. Both are from different

Sampradayas of vaishnava. Bhagavad Gita As It Is by

Srila Prabupadha is based on Brahma Gaudiya sampradaya

while Ramanuja Bhasya is based from Sri Sampradaya.

The goal is the same but the philosophy is different.

This is my opinion.

 

Bala

Beijing.

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

Thank you very for your comments on the commentary

about the Gita. It is good to know that you have been

conducting research on Gita for decades.

 

The last verse in the 6th Chapter yoginam api

sarvesham madgatenantaratmana shraddhavan bhajate yo

mam sa me yuktatamo matah actually indicates that of

all the yogis, one who is always fixed in devotion or

who always remembers and thinks of the lord is the

greatest of all not one who meditates predominantly

for self realization and the highest yogi is the one

who meditates on paramatma / Lord Krishna. The focus

is fixed in devotion not astanga yoga.

 

 

In the 6th Chapter Arjuna rejected the astanga yoga

described by Lord Krishna yo yam yogam tvayah prokta

samyena madhusudanah......... and then cancalam hi

manah krishna pramati balaved dhryam tashayam nigraham

manye vayur eva suduskaram ( please check for the

right spelling)The yoga that you taught me is

impratical and hard to execute as the mond is

restless.

 

Lord Krishna concludes the 6th Chapter by saying that

of all yogis one who fixes his mind or who thinks and

remembers about him is the greatest. In other words

thinking and remembering about the Lord is bhakti.

Prahlad Maharaja defines bhakti as srvanam kirtanam

visnu smaranam..........

 

Bhakti yoga is recommended for this age of kali

according to scriptures. krishna also declares that

only by devotional service that he will be known.

bhaktaya mam abijanati...... after many many births,

one who is in knowledge surrenders to me...... bahunam

janmanam ante jnavam mam prapayante vasudevam sarvam

iti sa mahatma sudhurlubah( please check for the right

spelling). Bhagavad Gita as It Is focuses more on

Bhakti yoga.

 

I am not an an expert in Gita or religion is not my

field of expertise. However over the last few years I

have been reading the vedic literatures such as Gita,

Srimad Bhagavatham, Mahabaratha and Valmiki Ramayana.

At present I am trying to focus on application of the

principles of Gita in human resource management and

leadership in organisations.

 

Other acaryas in group can participate and give their

opinions. We all can learn from one another.

 

Regards

 

Bala

[Guest guest]

Dear sri Balakrishnan, You wrote:

 

In the 6th Chapter Arjuna rejected the astanga yoga

described by Lord Krishna yo yam yogam tvayah prokta

samyena madhusudanah......... and then cancalam hi

manah krishna pramati balaved dhryam tashayam nigraham

manye vayur eva suduskaram ( please check for the

right spelling)The yoga that you taught me is

impratical and hard to execute as the mond is

restless.

 

************ My views

I dont think the issue at hand is answered in your email ie.: "first 6

chapters do not focus on God but jeevatma.- as per Sri Ramanuja. This is not

so according to all dvaita / gaudiya commentaries. I feel that Sri

Ramanuja's views are more appropriate and can be validated by assessment of

Gita's original words.

 

Clearly, the first 6 chapters focus only on jivatma. Other commentaries do

not explain the free flow of gradual yoga which is so well explained by Sri

Ramanuja . Unfortunately this work is the least marketed Gita bhasya!.

Unless one spends a lot of time understanding the major bhasyas of Advaita,

Visistadvaita, Dvaita, a good understanding of gita is not possible. Hence,

please go thru the other bhasyas also, since you have so much interest in

Gita.

 

The other bhasyas of dvaita/gaudiya are good books for devotees to read.

However, they can confuse the readers' mind. One should go beyond this

confusion. Since confusion is the beginning of learning. Of course for those

who are not familiar with sanskrit, it may be tough to follow what I am

referring to and even analyse the differences in these bhasyas.

 

However, I do thank the hare krishnas whole heartedly to have published gita

worldwide. I am a frequent visitor to ISKON temples and I do participate in

their events. I really feel that they have great devotion.

However, Gita is an art; One has to go beyond and study different views to

perceive its beauty.

 

By the way Sri Sankara's work on Gita is very consistent eventhough a couple

is issues such as nirguna bramhavada and mayavada cannot be well supported

in the Gita.

 

By the way, Email is not a good medium to learn shastras such as gita. One

has to learn it under a guru. One should complement guru's teachings by book

reading.

 

Again, let me state clearly that I do not claim to understand most of gita

after working on it seriously for 20 years. Such is the greatness and power

of the words of Lord Sri Krishna. All glories to him and bhagavatas.

 

Ramanuja bhasya : is available in international vivekananda or ramakrishna

missions world wide - authors : SS Raghavachar, Adidevananda, MR

sampathkumaran ( may be available in other book stores), Wait for book from

SMS Chari!!! this will be an eye opener. (title - comparitive Estimate of

Commentaries on Gita ; by Samkara, Ramanuja & Madhva.

Of course if you know kannada, book by Dr. NS Anantha Rangachar is excellent

( it has 3 volumes and is available in India bangalore - phone 91-80-3383755

 

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Regards,

 

adiyen Krishna Kashyap