Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 Dear Members, I am afraid this discussion about such-and-such an acharya being an avatAra of some other divine being is getting out of hand. The problem in insisting that these stories of, say, Swami Manavala Mamunigal being the reincarnation of Sri Ramanuja (or Adisesha) or Swami Desika being the incarnation of the bell of Lord Srinivasa (or Lord Srinivasa Himself) is that *none* of these things (a) can be historically verified (b) has any *real* value in philosophical discourse, other than to increase devotionalism, and that too, only in a minor, secondary manner. I would *strongly* urge the members of our list to keep these opinions and emotions to themselves and not make them points of argument. The problems caused by such insistence are immense. For, let us accept both of the above mentioned legends as fact, ignoring all historical problems -- that Desika is in fact the 'ghaNTAvatAra' and that Maamunigal is indeed Ramanuja reborn. There were *definite* differences of opinion between Swami Desika and Swami Maamunigal. Are we now saying that the ghaNTA of the Lord and the Lord's primary servant (Adisesha) are at odds with one another?! What is an objective observer (as I hope each one of us is) to make of this? What's more, why not we believe that Sri Madhvacharya was the veritable incarnation of Vayu and that Sri Chaitanya was Radha-Krishna personified? Their followers have as much evidence as we do. Where does it end? I must confess that I often find it troubling when praise goes to this extent. There have been statements here that because the boy who recited 'SrI-Sailesha-dayA-pAtram' was considered Lord Ranganatha that Maamunigal was even greater than Sri Ramanuja -- not *equal* to Ramanuja, but *greater* than Ramanuja. Need we go to this extent to laud our acharya, such that the bhAshyakAra himself is placed at a lower pedestal? Let there be absolutely no doubt that Swami Manavala Mamunigal was in fact one of the greatest acharyas of our tradition -- his kAruNya, his bhagavad-anubhava, and his clarity of writing are of a supreme order. His ability to reestablish the kainkarya in so many temples and preseve and propagate the bhagavad-vishaya can only be called superhuman. There is no doubt about this. But why not we focus on *these real kalyANa-guNas* of the revered acharya, and not stray stories, none of which truly and objectively add to our appreciation of the acharya? For, no matter how many times one simply declares (no matter what Pillai Lokam Jiyar wrote) that Manavala Maamunigal was the veritable reincarnation of Sri Ramanuja, or that Swami Desika was the ghaNTA incarnated, these contribute *nothing* to our understanding of either acharya's *true* contribution to our tradition. Neither can we say that either statement is anything more than partisan rhetoric. For neither Maamunigal nor Desika urged others to believe in their own divinity, nor did they wish to be elevated to the status of even Sri Ramanuja, not to speak of nitya-sUris like the ghaNTA or Adisesha. It does not help us in understanding the clarity and contribution of, say, Maamunigal's 'tattva-traya vyAkhyAnam', or, say, Swami Desika's 'tAtparya-candrikA'. Only by using our minds and eyes and delving into these treasures of thought and insight can we really appreciate these mahAtmas. Recently Mukundan has written a pained note expressing dismay that someone has tried to challenge that the Lord himself learnt from Maamunigal. I really do not think anyone wishes to "disprove" Maamunigal's acharya-ship to the Lord. For that matter, it is not provable either, and it carries no water with me. (What would it mean for the sarvajna, the mass of knowledge Himself, to "learn" from Maamunigal? In what way was he a sishya?) It is, however, valuable in estimating the *respect* with which contemporaries held Maamunigal. To explain, we may examine a similar debate which was carried on by the early acharyas concerning the apparent divinity of the Alvars. This debate can be found in the introduction to the commentaries on the Tiruviruttam. Some acharyas felt that the Lord Himself came as Nammalvar. Others felt that a nitya-sUri had taken descent as the saint. Yet others felt that he was a samsArin like the rest of the jIvas. The commentator (Nampillai in this case) concludes that the earlier opinions about the divinity of Nammalvar are statements made to express their appreciationh of the incomprehensible greatness (prabhAva) of the saint. Nampillai concludes, on the basis of the Alvar's own statements, that Nammalvar was a jIva stuck in samsAra rescued by the grace of the Lord. Without entering the debate over whether the Alvars were nitya-sUris or not, I would like to propose the idea that we may view these stories of our acharyas in the same light. These stories mentioned in the traditional biographies and hagiologies seek to impress upon us the incomprehensible contribution of these scholar-saints. But they should be taken *no further*. They should not be made points of argument, or take any independent philosophical significance of their own. They should also not be used to declare emotionally that one acharya is "the greatest", without providing solid supporting material in terms of actual contributions. For, what good is it to declare such things? Only to make others feel bad? Or to beat one's chest to express one's own devotion to one's acharya? I don't think any of our acharyas, particularly Maamunigal, Desika, or Sri Ramanuja, would want this of us. All in all, I hope our community as a whole, and at least the membership of this list, can move past the miracle-mongering and fanciful stories that constitute the bulk of what passes as biographies of our acharyas and Alvars. There is *so much more* we can learn from what they *actually said* that we are wasting far too much time on these trivialities. Honestly, I am rather disappointed so far that the series on Swami Manavaala Maamunigal's vaibhavam has concentrated more on these hagiological details rather than his actual, concrete contributions. When I open up Maamunigal's 'SrI-vacana-bhUshaNa' vyAkhyAnam, even to my untutored eye I find so many insights written in the simplest of maNipravALa. Can we not get *someone* to elaborate on any of these great thoughts? aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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