Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 My humble namaskaram to all members. My name is Hari Krishnan and I am a columnist in ChennaiOnline.com. I am writing a daily column on Ramayana, under the caption 'Religion'. I was informed about this list by a reader madhav.vasudevan and with the information so kindly provided by him, I joined the group recently. I thank him sincerely for the information and the moderator for adding me to the list. I am a member of a few mail groups, all of them mostly literary in nature, though religion is a natural part of it. I find the members of this group interacting very politely and addressing others with respect in all sincerity. This is not a familiar scene in many other groups. The mails are scholarly, informative and interesting. I was tempted to respond to a mail from Sriman Sadagopan Iyengar under the caption 'manaththukiniyAn.' That was a beautiful exposition. Though I thought of adding a few words to his excellent interpretation, I restrained myself from doing so, initially, as I was hesitant. I am encouraged by the free exchange of information in the group and thought I can share a few thoughts on the verse. I feel that 'manaththukkiniyAn' should be read along with the words 'sinaththinAl then ilangaik kOmAnaich chetra' and need elaboration with that background, for Sri Rama is not known for anger, even in the battlefield. Kamban does not fail to mention the smile of Sri Rama, in each and every place before Sri Rama takes the bow in hand. Even Ravana, who was mercifully sent back after the first war, returns to his palace, sits in isolation and ruminates over the events of the day. The Poet captures a finer point here, through the mouth of Ravana himself. eRiththa pOr arakkar aavi eNNilA veLLam enja paRiththa pOthu ennai inthap paripavam muthukil paRRap poRiththa pOthu annAn anthak kUni kUn pOka uNdai theRiththa pOthu oththathu anRi sinam uNmai therinthathu illai. --(Kamba Sri Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda, KumbakarNan vadhai-p padalam) Ravana says, 'Even when this fellow kills the enormous number of soldiers of my army in a trice and even when he caused me this agony by stamping an insult on my back with his arrow, I find that his countenance remains so calm and playful as it was when he shot clay-tipped arrows on the hunched back of Mantara, as though to straighten it. **I do not find even a trace of anger in his face!**' There are a few places, though, where Sri Rama's anger knows no bounds. But such anger does not last long. They can be counted on fingers of one hand, may be needing one or two more fingers from the other hand. Given this background, the attribute 'sinaththinAl then ilangaik kOmAnai-ch chetra' (He who slayed Ravana **out of anger**) must have some deeper significance. I would be happy and thankful - indeed grateful - to receive your valued interpretations. I shudder to venture into my own in such a scholarly gathering. I do not find anyone referring to oneself with the pronoun 'I'. Kindly bear with me and forgive me if I sound a little impolite in my references either to others or myself, since I am not very familiar with formal addresses that are used in Vaishnavite groups. I hope to learn from scholars like you all. Namaskaram again. Sincerely, Hari Krishnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: Dear BhagavatOttamas, Sri Hari Krishnan raises a valuable question. --- Hari Krishnan <harikrishnan wrote: > 'sinaththinAl then ilangaik kOmAnai-ch chetra' (He > who slayed Ravana **out of anger**) must have some > deeper significance. The very same question is asked and answered by the vyakyadars of Tiruppavai. Would Sri Rama who is as cool as water get angry? The answer is that He considers the enemies of His devotees as His own enemies. Sri Rama got angry when He found that Ravana had attacked Siriya Tiruvadi, Sri Hanuman. He was cool when Ravana's arrows struck His body, but He was angered when Ravana's arrows fell on Sri Hanuman's body. He had shown the same guNam when He got angry with Vali and killed him as Sugreeva was angry with his brother and yet He also cried when Sugreeva cried for his brother. Sri Krishna also states to Duryodhana that His enemity to the Pandavas who are dear to Him is enemity toward Him. The meaning here also is that His anger (purpose) goes down only when all the things (beings and non-beings) that stand in the way of His devotees reaching Him are removed. It is said that Sri Ranganatha is lying in Srirangam with the vow that He will not rise till the karmas of all beings are removed. Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan TCA Venkatesan ===== Email: vtca TCA Venkatesan: http://www.acharya.cc -- Srivaishnava Sampradhayam: http://www.acharya.org For latest changes to this site, click on http://www.acharya.org/whatsnew.html Send FREE video emails in Mail! http://promo./videomail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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