Guest guest Posted January 28, 2002 Report Share Posted January 28, 2002 SrI: SrImathE Ramanujaya namah: Dearest Srivaishnavas, Just to supplement the thread: Essentially we are all agreeing that for those who have surrendered the final remembrance is not needed. (means: prapannan has done what is required to be done placing the burden of protection to the Lord Himself.). It is the Lord who enables the jIvan (prapannan) remember Him at the final stage. Sri Mani Varadarajan beautifully posted few months ago and is reproduced here for our ready reference. bhakti-list, sadagopan iyengar <sadagopaniyengar> wrote: > Hence Swami Desikan concludes, "prapannanukku antima > smrityAdigaliL nirbandham illai". We heave a sigh of > relief, for, as prapannAs, our ascent to Sri Vaikuntam > (at the appropriate time) is ensured, whether or not > we are able to keep Him in our Last Thoughts. Sri Sadagopan Swamin, What a lovely essay! I would like to follow up with Sri Vedanta Desika's concluding teachings from the same section of Srimad Rahasya Traya Saaram. Some shastras (such as the Gita) say that one *must* keep the Lord in one's thoughts as one dies. Without this there is no attainment of the Lord, for whatever one's last thought is, that itself it attains. This we know from the story of Adi Bharata, etc. Other shastras (such as the Varaha Charama Sloka) say that for one who is relying purely on His grace, such remembrance is unnecessary for He Himself will remember the jIva and lead it along the path of light to His abode. How can one reconcile the two conflicting teachings? The resolution is that one must understand the real problem. It is really not whether one must have a thought of the Lord as one dies. This, as we have seen from the Gita and various other shastras, is necessary. The question then is whether one must *expend any effort* in *keeping* the Lord in one's thoughts at that stage. For, as the author of the Mukunda Mala says, 'smaraNam kutas te' -- how can I remember you when I am physically incapable of doing so? The answer lies in the Lord's words from His conversation with Sri Ramanuja in Saranagati Gadyam. He reassures Sri Ramanuja that at the time of death, purely by His own grace, because the He is remembering the jIva, the jIva will have the thought of Him, even if the jIva would otherwise be incapable. -- 'SarIra-pAta-samaye tu, kevalam madIya dayayA ... atiprabuddhaH, mAm eva avalokayan ... ' In other words, one need not worry about the remembrance at all. Just as for the mature upAsaka (meditator) the final thought will be natural, as an outflow of his or her meditative experience of the Lord throughout life, for one relying wholly upon the Lord's grace, the Lord *Himself* will achieve this final remembrance, without any effort expended on the jIva's part. No matter what the condition, even if the body be unconscious like a log, such a final thought will be achieved -- because He has declared that He will take care of the jIva. In all cases one must adopt the attitude of Nammalvar -- 'ciRRa vENDA' -- do not worry! aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mani Hope it clarifies. Regards Namo narayana aDiyEn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2002 Report Share Posted January 29, 2002 Dear BhagavtOttamas, Looking at this further, on the surface of it there appears to be a contradiction. Our sampradhayam holds that for a prapannan the only means to reach Him is through Him. Once prapatti has been done at His lotus feet nothing further is required to reach Him. Yet, we are also concluding that He will make sure that a prapannan remembers Him in the final moments. That is, the remembrance is a required act beyond prapatti. This seems contradictory. AdiyEn thinks that it would be resolved as follows. It is true that a prapannan does not need to remember Him in the final moments. It also is true that Sriman Narayana does not have to aid in the remembrance either. However, were He to not do that, then the Sastras that state that He has to be remembered might appear to be false. Since He provided us the Sastras to help us reach Him, He will not let those Sastras be held untrue. Hence, we can conclude that He will make sure that the prapannan remembers Him. I look forward to thoughts on this from the esteemed bhAgavthAs in this group. adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan TCA Venkatesan --- srivaishnavan <madhav.vasudevan wrote: > SrI: > SrImathE Ramanujaya namah: > Dearest Srivaishnavas, > > Just to supplement the thread: > Essentially we are all agreeing that for those who > have surrendered > the final remembrance is not needed. (means: > prapannan has done what > is required to be done placing the burden of > protection to the Lord > Himself.). It is the Lord who enables the jIvan > (prapannan) remember > Him at the final stage. > > Sri Mani Varadarajan beautifully posted few months > ago ... Great stuff seeking new owners in Auctions! http://auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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