Guest guest Posted February 4, 2002 Report Share Posted February 4, 2002 > bath sobha <sbath2000 > ... > The celestial guardians of the gate at Vaikuntam > Jaya and Vijaya had requested the Lord > Srimannarayana that they prefer to reach the > Vaikuntam after three janmas as asuraas.These are > (1) the Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakashipu (2) Raavana , > Kumbah karna and (3)Sisupaala ,Jaraasandha. If my memory is right, the last pair is Sisupala and Dhantavaktra (not Jarasandha or Kamsa as is usually thought). > 1)Was there any background for them to have prefered > three janmas and not one instead which is more > easier? Evidently the Lord gave them only 2 options as retribution for insulting the great sages: a) 7 births in samsara in bhakti b) 3 births in samsara in dvesha-bhakti Having enjoyed the honey of the Lord's lotus feet, they preferred the lesser pain - 3 births in separation. > 2) Did they have any knowledge/link to the fact that > the Lord promised Aaditi and Kasyapa that He would > be born to them thrice as their son(in this context > the vaamana aavatar may be excluded and only the > other two i.e Rama and Krishna avaatars amy be > considered) Going by Bhagavatha or Vishnu purana, there is no mention of their knowing the Lord's promise beforehand. But link - yes, obviously everything is intricately linked in Maamayan's Super Plan. > 2) I have been told that each of the above asura > typified a particular arishad varga (kaama, krodha > etc..). Can any one clarify which aasura manifested > which quality? I have not heard this before. But it is worth trying: 1) kaama - desire/lust - Ravana - the less said about it, the better 2) krodha - anger - Hiranyakasipu - perpetually fuming over the death of his dear brother at the hands of the Maayavi. 3) lobha - greed - Dhantavaktra - frankly, not much idea about him - but only option left 4) moha - delusion - Kumbhakarna - deluded in tamas, sleep 5) matha - pride - Hiranyaksha - extraordinarily proud and arrogant of his elephantine strength that scared the whole universe 6) matsarya - jealousy - Sisupala - from day one, he was jealous of Krishna > Thanking one and all, > With pranamams, > B.Sobha. dasan, P.Srinivasan Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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