Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 SrI: Dear BhakthAs of Sri RanganAyaki ThAyAr: In the 52nd slOkam , Swamy ParAsara Bhattar focuses further on the Vaathsalyam of SrI RanganAyaki for Her erring children and the special efforts She takes to influence Her Lord posiitvely in favor of Her/Their children: pithEva thvath prEyAn Janani! paripoorNAgasi janE hitha srOthO vruthyA bhavathicha kadAchith kalUshadhI: kimEthath nirdhOsha: ka iha jagathIthi thvamuchithai: upAyair vismArya svajanayasi MaathA tadhasi na: (Meaning: Dr.V.N.Vedantha Desikan Swamy): " Oh Mother ! This view is not merely our personal view . It is indeed Your perspective on things (as well). For, Your Consort , Lord RanganAthA has a tendency to be harsh on (towards) us under certain circumstances , even if it be in our own interest . A father ought to do it as it is the order of the worldly tings. But You always intercede, argue on our behalf , and, when necessary question Him " Who in the world is free from some occasional error? After all, to err is human!". Not only that: You would even conspire to make Him forget our transgressions , for which You would employ Your enticing impact , love-play etc,-- which is all in the nature of any worldly mother. Yes, You are our Mother indeed!" Additional Comments: ******************** This and the previous slOkam suggest that the PurushakAram ( intercession and pleading for us with Her Lord) arises directly out of our ThAyAr's great affection (vaathsalyam ) for us inspite of the many transgressions by us of Her Consort's Saasthrams. To understand PurushakArathvam of Periya PirAtti, we have to understand the Dhvaya ManthrAdhikAram of SrImath Rahasya Thraya Saaram. Swamy Desikan quotes here a slOkam of Swamy AruLALa PerumAL EmperumAnAr: AakAriNasthu vij~nAnam Aakaara Jn~Ana poorvakam tEnAkAram SRIYAN Jn~AthvA jn~AthavyO BhagavAn Hari: (meaning): Only after understanding the attributes (VisEshaNam )of a vasthu, we can begin to understand the vasthu. Therefore , We can understand BhagavAn only after understanding His pradhAna VisEshaNam , PirAtti. VisEshaNam is a word or a tatthvam that qualifies or defines another and is recognized as an adjective or a distinguishing attribute. Swamy Desikan proceeds thereafter to derive the six meanings of SrI Sabdham and connects them to Her PurushakAra anugraham as per PaancharAthra Saasthram . These six meanings are indicated in the following pramANam: SruNAthi nikhilAN dhOshAn SrINAthi cha guNair-jagath SreeyathE chAkhilair-nithyam SrayathE cha param padham Srayantheem SriyamANam cha SruNathIm SruNvathImapi The Six Meanings of the Word SrI: ********************************* These six aspects of SrI sabdham are: (1) SrIyathE (2)SrayathE (3)SruNOthi (4)SrAvayathi (5)SruNAthi (6)SrINAthi. Among these , The two aspects of Her anugraham ( SrIyathE and SrayathE ) .These two aspects are close to the PurushakArathvam of our Mother. She intercedes on our behalf , reduces the anger of Her Lord and enhances his " sahaja KaaruNyam " in Her role as the affectionate and caring Mother (Maathruthva Vaathsalyam ) .She questions Her Lord : "Is there a chEthanam that has not erred ? " As She stated in SithAvathAram : "na kascchin- nAparAdhyathi". She also charms her husband with Her Bhogams and redcues His anger at the erring chEthanams and serves as the PurushakAra BhUthai.That the Lord is totally under Her bhOgaanubhavam is referred to by Swamy NammAzhwAr in ThiruvAimozhi 3.10.8: "Alli Malar MakaL BhOga-mayakkuhaL aahiyum niRkum AmmAn " (meaning): Our Lord is enchanted by the BhOga anubhavam of His consort , SrI Devi and is totally under Her influence". She as PurushakAra BhUthai pleads with Him to reduce Her Lord's anger at the erring jeevans and also uses Her infinite charm to achieve the same goal. Through Her natural Motherly instincts , She saves us from the Lord's anger and prepares us to become the objects of His grace and stays in the UpEya Sthaanam at the time of the jeevan's enactment of the anushtAnam of SaraNAgathi.Swamy Desikan has blessed us with upadEsams on PurushakArathvam and Prapathti doctrines in His SrI Sookthi NikshEpa Rakshai . adiyEn hopes to write in greater detail about Her glories in future articles on the SrI Sookthi of ChathusslOki of Swamy AaLavanthAr as per the KaalakshEpams of Prakuratham AchAryALs and VyAkhyANams of PoorvAchAryALs like Swamy Desikan , NaayinArAcchAn PiLlai and PeriyavAcchAn PiLLai . These will appear in the SaraNAgathi Journal. Sri RanganAyaki ThAyAr ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam , Daasan, Oppiliappan Koil VaradAchAri SaThakOpan /Sadagopan P.S: AdiyEn appeals to you to participate in the NithyArAdhanam for Swamy Desikan at Thoopul .Our AchArya Saarvabhouman was conferred the title of Sarva Tanthra Svathanrar by Sri RanganAyaki ThAyAr Herself.Please contact me for details on how you can help with this kaimkaryam . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Bhaktas, I have been recently reviewing S. Dasgupta's volumes on History of Indian Philosophy (chapters on Vaishnavism) as well as an academic work entitled "Viraha Bhakti.." by Friedhelm Hardy. Can someone please share their insight into how authoritative or up to date the material is. IF there are works which I could study with a more traditional perspective, I would greatly appreciate it. Ys, Jagadish das _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Sri SMS chari's "the philosophy of the Alwars" talks about the same aspects. I think he is quite traditional. Krishna Shruti Dhara [shruti_dhara] Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:27 PM bhakti-list Re: Sri Guna Rathna Kosam : Part 62: slOkam 52 Dear Bhaktas, I have been recently reviewing S. Dasgupta's volumes on History of Indian Philosophy (chapters on Vaishnavism) as well as an academic work entitled "Viraha Bhakti.." by Friedhelm Hardy. Can someone please share their insight into how authoritative or up to date the material is. IF there are works which I could study with a more traditional perspective, I would greatly appreciate it. Ys, Jagadish das _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ----------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 SrI: Dear SrI Jagdish Dasa: Your questions are welcome. Sri Vaishnavas born in this country and with deep knowledge of SrI VaishNavam doctrines and the ethos of western society can join in and answer your questions even more effectively than myself in the sense that they are brought up here and yet have deep roots in the soil of their traditions as SrI VaishNavAs. VaishNavAs can be from any part of the world. You are most welcome to join the assembly of devotees following SrI VaishNava sampradhAyam (Tradition). SrI Mohan Sagar ( vide infra) can help you with the details further thru off line communication. One of the purposes of the International Ramanuja Society is to help in this area of seekers , who wish to learn more about Sri RaamAnuja Darsanam (VaishNavite practises and philosophy behind it). I have copied two of the members , who can be of particular help to you . One is the moderator of the Bhakthi list (SrI Mani Varadarajan of San Fransisco) and the other is the moderator of the International Ramanuja Societylist pags ( Sri Mohan Sagar of Colorado). I am sure that they would not mind my referral of their names .They are very good both at analysis and synthesis and absorbing the best in both the worlds , while living here as strict Vaishnavas with abundant faith in their perceptors (AchAryAs) and the Lord ( Bhagavaan SrIman NaarAyaNa ). Please feel free to establish contact with them .I am not sure as to how far Santa Rosa is from major cities in California like San Fransisco or LA. There are a lot of Vaishnavaas in California near these two cities , who can help you with details on practises and respond to your questions including the above two resource persons . Now , I will answer your questions item by item : Question 1: At 04:12 AM 3/1/02 +0000, you wrote: > >Dear V. Sadagopan, > >Thank you for your reply. >There are in fact several questions I have and I do not expect all of them >to be replied to. They are as follows: > >-(1)I wish to know if there is somewhere I can make note of the guru >parampara(s) in Sri Vaishnavism, life histories, main temples or maths, etc. Response: ********* Sri Ramanuja Mission of USA has released an informative chart on the Guru Paramparaas of SrI VaishNavam . You may wish to obtain it from Sri Madhavan (mathavan_matt). Sriman Sunder Kidambi (Sunder.kidambi)has a wonerful web site , which has extensive coverage of the 108 divine Temples important to SrI VaishNavAs . The 12 AzhwArs have sung about the ancient deities at these temples. Two of the 108 are not on this earth. Please refer to this site. We are coming up with a multimedia CD ROM on the lives of these Azhwars and the 108 temples that they sung about shortly .There is also a set of two audio tapes that cover the lives of the 12 AzhwArs besides a Multimedia interactive CD ROM on the Life and works of AchArya RaamAnujA , who is one of the most important Gurus in the line of preceptors for SrI VaishNavam . There are many sites with elaborate information on the temples and AzhwArs as well as AchAryaas ( SrIman Venkatesh Elayavalli's Vasihnava home page, the one on the Temple of Thiruppahti, where you will find many other links:http://www.srivaishnava.org , http://venkateswara.freeservers.com ).There are telephone lectures weekly (Weekend ) in English by great Indian scholars , which might require some basic familiarity with Vaishnava doctrines. >-I also would like to know about the practices, and frankly, if westerners >such as myself can engage in some form of worship. What are the general >practices of Sri Vaishnavas? SrI Mohan Sagar can help you here. > >_I live in Santa Rosa, California. Are than any bhaktas known in this area >that are willing to meet and discuss teachings? I have commented on this point earlier. > >-How have the teachings of Yoga (Classical or Hatha) been integrated with >the teachings of Sri Ramanuja. I am just becoming familiar with the >teachings of Sri T. Krishnamacharya. Do Sri Vaishnavas practice asana or >pranayama as part of their sadhana? Is there any use of mantra or >smaranam/dhyana during asanas? Yes. PrANAyAma is part of their thrice a day worship. Yes , there are mantraas for smaraNam and dhYanam , which one recieves during the initiation stages . Proper Aasanams are an integral part of manthra japam. > >-How do Sri Vaishnavas worship Lord Krishna? This is a vast subject . He is considered as the incarnation of Sriman NaarAyana and is the choice Lord of worship for many. His teachings housed in Srimath Bhagavath GitA is a guiding light for us since it provides us the ultimate means for liberation from the cycles of births and deaths (Total surrender at the feet of Sriman Narayanan) . Many AzhwArs have recommended not to undertake demanding yogas and penances and asked us to devote our time on this earth in meditation (DhyAnam ) and naama sankIrthanam ( singing of His thousands of names ) and service to the devotees of the Lord (BhagavathAs) and the Lord . V.Sadagopan > >I thank you heartily, >Ys, >Jagadish dasa - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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