Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 SrI: SrImatE rAmAnujAya namaH SrImatE nigamAnta mahAdESikAya namaH namO nArAyaNa! Dear bhaktas, The following was written by me many months back as a reply to a devotee's question/explanations. Reproducing the relevant part of that mail.....Sorry for not being able to edit it appropriately. ------------- Karma yOga is only those that you have quoted from SwAmi DESikan's originals viz. "saniyamAgap parigruhItamA-irukkum karma viSEsham". They are stated in RTS itself : The list of karmas as given in SrI Bhagavad GIta viz. yaj~na, tIrtha yAtra, dAna, prANAyAma etc. The meaning of "saniyama....." is that any "one" of these types of karmas should be performed with the sa~nkalpam for getting jIvAtma-sAkshAtkAram, regularly without alteration to some other karma. This is the Karma Yoga. Nitya-naimittika karmas and phala ....kAmya karmas mentioned in SrImad RTS originals do not convey that they are "Karma Yoga" as such. They only aid karma yOga - Or for that matter aid even bhakti yOga and those who perform prapatti as sAdhyOpAyam. In jn~Ana yoga, the continuous Cintana <rememberance> on aadhEyatva et al reg SarIratvam of a jIvAtma is *not* there. This very important point is missed by many scholars in their writings as well as discourses. That gives rise to confusions as well. SrI UtthamUr SwAmi has made brilliant contribution in this regard. The SrImad RTS originals state those viSEshanas for characterizing the jIvAtma swaroopa and not for characterizing the object of Cintana in jn~Ana yoga. Only the jn~Anatvam, aanandatvam and amalatvam characteristics of the jIvAtma are to be continuously remembered upon. This is only jn~Ana Yoga. After a particular stage of perfection, one should perform the dhyAna-yOga as prescribed in gIta (Ch 6) with appropriate aasana and indriya pratyAhAra. This is meditation on the jIvAtma swaroopam with above characteristics, and this leads to jIvAtmalOkanam ie.jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram; This is dhyAna ie.meditation with aasana etc different from "mere Cintana". Alternatively, one can by-pass the jn~Ana yoga and directly perform this dhyAna-yOga for jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram, after having attained a very good perfection in the karma yoga. This is possible because while performing karma-yoga one has to do it with the knowledge of being a jIvAtma with the above characteristics remembered in jn~Ana yOga. Though it will not be a continuous rememberance of the jIvAtma characteristics as in jn~Ana yOga, the sheer practise of karma yoga will make one fit enough for performing dhyAna-yOga to obtain jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram. Infact, Lord KrishNa instructs one to prefer karma yoga route by itself for jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram over the karma yoga followed by jn~Ana yoga route. PerumAL states some appropriate reasons also ....Easy to perform/practise, we are very much used to performing activities, lOka kshEmam ie. others will follow your anushThAnams etc. In the SRTS text, "...ik-karma-yogam jn~Ana-yoga-tthai iDaiyittum iDai-iDAdEyum saparikara-mAna yoga-tthai koNDu aatmAvalOkanasAdhanam-Am ", the phrase "saparikara-mAna yoga-tthai koNDu" refers to the dhyAna yoga. It means "Karma Yoga becomes a sAdhana (means) for jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram through the saparikara-yoga < ie.dhyAna-yoga with aasanam, prANAyAmam and pratyAhAram> either with or without jn~Ana yoga as an intermediate". In the SRTS text "ik karma-yOga jn~Ana-yoga-N~gaLAlE yoga-mukhattAlE aatmAvalOkanam piRandAl ......", the term "yoga-mukhattAlE" refers to this dhyAna-yOga, the meeting point of karma and jn~Ana yoga routes for attaining jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram as jn~AnAnanda swaroopa and being blemishless. The characteristic of being a SarIra to paramAtma is meditated upon only in the bhakti-yoga. JIvAtma sAkshAtkAram is thus a pre-requisite for bhakti-yOga since meditation on SarIratvam of a jIvAtma comes after sAkshAtkAram of what a jIvAtma is <ie. sAkshAtkAram of jIvAtma swaroopam>. That is why, a pit-fall is there in this "jIvAtma-sAkshAtkAram" stage. One might get attracted by the high degree of aananda experienced in this sAkshAtkAram <note: SarIratvam /seshatvam is not an object of sAkshAtkAram of this meditation> and get stagnated without proceeding onto bhakti-yoga. These yogis proceed to kaivalya (after which they will perform bhakti yoga ; ie. after their sins for starting the bhakti yoga gets eradicated). Note: Even before performing karma yoga one knows the true nature of jIvAtma, paramAtma etc through kAlakshEpam from an AchArya. This attainment of knowledge is not jn~Ana yoga (ref the above definition). Further, acquairance of this general knowledge is different from meditation on certain limited characteristics of jIvAtma etc. Those who attain kaivalya also knows Sastra thoroughly and during the time prior to even their start of karma yoga, they knew SAstras very well.It is only the extensive aananda obtained in jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram of this aanandamaya swaroopa that causes their pitfall. By the way, for everyone in general they themselves are their own dearmost. It is easily evident since all the activities are performed for one's welfare. Even a suicide is performed by some to get rid of some present problem => Inherently, everyone likes themselves the most. Anyway, when some gets attracted to materialistic things like Cinema, Coffee etc (though they don't want to get addicted in heart, still they prefer unfortunately) even with the knowledge of SAstras, it is understandable that a yogi gets attracted by jIvAtma sAkshAtkAram, though he has prior knowledge that paramAtma sAkshAtkAram is the goal to be attained. -------------------------------- aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, anantapadmanAbhan alias Anand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 Dear Bhagavata, Do you perhaps know off hand under which listing the previous entries were for Karma-Jnana-Bhakti yoga is mentioned in the archives? I am writing education material on this subject matter and I am finding these insights extremely helpful. I thank you for your consideration. Ys, Jagadish dasa >Anand K Karalapakkam <kgk >bhakti-list >Karma and Jn~Ana Yogas >Sat, 06 Apr 2002 12:16:43 +0530 > >SrI: >SrImatE rAmAnujAya namaH >SrImatE nigamAnta mahAdESikAya namaH > > namO nArAyaNa! > > Dear bhaktas, > > The following was written by me many months back as > a reply to a devotee's question/explanations. Reproducing > the relevant part of that mail.....Sorry for not being able to > edit it appropriately. > >------------- > > Karma yOga is only those that you have quoted from SwAmi DESikan's > originals viz. "saniyamAgap parigruhItamA-irukkum karma viSEsham". > They are stated in RTS itself : The list of karmas > as given in SrI Bhagavad GIta viz. yaj~na, tIrtha yAtra, dAna, > prANAyAma etc. [ rest deleted for brevity's sake -- moderator ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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