Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Sri: SrimathE Ramanujaya Nama: AzhwAr emperumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigalE Saranam Appan thiruvadigalE Saranam Dear group In the process of trying to learn the history of Sri Vaishnavam and Sri Ramanujar's contribution to it, the temple management as perscribed by Sri Ramanuja caught my attention. In this and subsequent emails i will try to bring out the management structure established by Sri Ramanuja at Srirangam, which we all know as the Udayavar thittam, to the best of my understanding. During Tirumangai AlwArs time, the temple management was distributed among five groups: 1. Kovanavars - the acharyas associated with the temple 2. Kodavars - the pot bearers 3. Koduvel eduppAr - the torch bearers 4. pAduvArs - the singers 5. TalaiduvArs - those who carry the plantain leaves. When Sri Ramanuja took over the temple management, he appointed mudali AndAn as SenApati Durantara. He increased the group to a total of 10 from 5 mentioned above and added 9 more groups of harijans. All the 19 groups would be under the direction of SenApati Durantara. 1. Tiruppatiyar - general followers of Ramanuja, includes outsiders 2. Tiruppanisaivar - includes the Kodavars, and few other desciples of select acharyas 3. BhAgavata nambis 4. ullUrAr (todavattimAr) - the archakas and other who carry the utsavar 5. Vinnappam seivAr - Arayars 6. Tirukkaragam kaiyAr - pot bearers and incharge of bathing the deity 7. SthAnattAr - A class of TalaiduvArs with some fixed assignment 8. Pattukkottu - the group that recites the vedas, puranas, sriranga mahatmayam, prbhandam and sri bhAsyam 9. Aryabhattal - the group that keeps watch in the temple 10. Dasa Nambis - provided flowers for the garlands and torches etc Sri Ramanuja also appointed four EkAngis (outsiders) couple of whom helped the SenApati durantara. He also allocated duties to SattAda Mudalis (the non-brahmins who did not wear mupuri) In addition to the above, Sri Ramanuja established groups of lower caste (harijans) with tasks involving temple fucntions: 1. VellAlas - incharge of granary 2. Saluvas - miscellaneous functions: watering the plants, decorating the utsava vehicles, blwoing the conch etc 3. emperumAnadiyar - the devadAsis (dancers) attached to the temple. 4. tiruvelakkArar - the groups the guard the room hosting canopies, drums etc 5. KammAlas - sculptors, masons and metal workers 6. the group of needle workers, silk weavers etc 7. Potter - those who make the every day pots for food prep 8. Boatman - those who bring supplies from villages on the banks for the river 9. Muscicians - the instrumentalists and drummers. To be continued ............ adiyEn Venkatesh Elayavilli [ The Vellalas can hardly be called "low caste", and they are certainly not Dalits ("harijans"). They are an upper class, agrarian, landowning community, typically rather well-off. Similarly, the Devadasis were by no means considered outcastes or "low", in general. I doubt that even the personality of Bhagavad Ramanuja could manage politically to give Dalits a large role in service of the Great Temple. Recall that in Tirunarayanapuram, the Dalit Tirukkulattaars ("people of holy birth") were allowed temple entrance only three days in the year, that that itself was a tremendous accomplishment by our Saint. -- Moderator ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 maNi wrote --- > or "low", in general. I doubt that even the personality of > Bhagavad Ramanuja could manage politically to give Dalits > a large role in service of the Great Temple. Recall that in > Tirunarayanapuram, the Dalit Tirukkulattaars ("people of holy > birth") were allowed temple entrance only three days in the > year, that that itself was a tremendous accomplishment by our > Saint. -- Moderator ] --- just to add to the above, the entry of "dalits" in the Great Temple on a normal basis seemed to have happened only after the 1930s (or maybe 1940s). There are incidents narrated by people that point to that - i.e. many brahmins were upset about the entry of the "dalits" into the Great Temple and protested vehemently etc. - Similarly there are many people from the earlier generations that have stopped going to temples after the entry of "dalits" became a normal affair. This only proves how difficult it must have been for our AchAryAs to have brought the level of universalism in our religion to include *everyone*. One can only imagine the difficulties that would have been faced by svAmi emperumAnAr, svAmi nampiLLAi, svAmi piLLai lOkAchAriAr, svAmi azhagiya maNavALa-p-perumAL nAyanAr and svAmi maNavALa mAmunigaL in this regard! - All the above AchAryAs went to great lengths to remove the caste barrier from our religion even during their times - and if there is such a resistance to reform even during the 1900s (or even now, when we refuse to let "non-brhamins" in the gOshti!), it is quite natural that such AchAryAs who tried to remove the barrier did face a lot of negative resistance and dush- prachAram. Sometimes, we do not appreciate "pAr ulagil aasai udayOrkku ellAm aariyargAL koorum enRu pEsi varambu aruththAr pin" {svAmi emperyumAnAr removed the hurdle and instructed to provide religious teaching to *anyone* who has the interest - from upadEsa rattina mAlai of svAmi maNavALa mAmuni}. These kinds of discussions are a good place where we can pause, and reflect on the greatness of our AchAryAs. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, varadhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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